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Aug 18th
12:07 am
Zac gets off his couch aka #Rio2016  

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Final Five on NBC Olympics' Facebook from Rachel B on Vimeo.

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cindiest on August 18th, 2016 05:52 am (UTC)
It is with great joy that I watch these U.S. superheroes turn back into teenagers before my very eyes. I've got the Zac turning me back into a teenager part down. I'll leave the rest to the Final Five.

I really appreciate your account. In every post there is at least one thing or more than I did not get to see. Thank you!
countessm3countessm3 on August 18th, 2016 04:57 pm (UTC)

Zac may have Simone Biles in his back pocket, but I've got Tori Bowie in mine. I'm not surprised, though, that the heretofore unknown from a rural town in Mississippi and recent graduate of *University of Southern Mississippi*, the only US runner to claim two Olympic medals so far (and she's got an opportunity to win three, as there's another competition coming up), a hard-working woman and phenomenal athlete with a degree, should be overlooked. She comes from humble beginnings, without any of the training that stems entitlement and money, and has worked her ass off to get where she is.

I'll also point out that Track/Field stars here only get partial scholarships, so she's had to work. I'm amazed by her. I'm just sad I didn't get to meet here while she was here.

I am happy, though, that Zac got to fly down there and meet her and her him. He looks fantastic - sincerely happy - and she does too.
ze ♡msalyssaefron on August 18th, 2016 06:11 pm (UTC)
I'm so happy that Simone got the chance to meet him. I got a little too excited when he popped up in her snapchat, lol. Things like this are what make me feel glad that I chose the right person to stan. I think I've watched the video of the surprise at least five times now, because I can't get over their priceless reactions (especially Simone's, she is adorable).

Zac looks great and happy to be there. I'm glad.

Edited at 2016-08-18 06:13 pm (UTC)
kleth on August 18th, 2016 06:13 pm (UTC)
I thought this might happen. I knew it should happen. I saw one report saying that NBC flew him down, which may explain why he went -- and invitation and a free trip.

Now, after this and his round trip to Japan, I wonder how many zillion miles he has flown this month.

Earlier, I was critical of Zac for thinking that his advantages of celebrity, wealth, and hotness were a problem, a burden he must bear. If I may extend the discussion just another inch or two, I'd like to point out that Zac, at least in this instance, is following my advice. The Fab Five aren't nuts about Zac because of who he really is, his Inner Zac, but because of his image. And Zac seems to be loving it.

Zac needs to understand that celebrity, wealth, and hotness are not superficial attributes, they are basic factors of his life - part of the "real Zac." Once he integrates that fact into his life, he will no longer be burdened by "problems". He will finally be "the real Zac," which of course has to include everything.

So turn on the psychic blender, Zac. It's all right to be a hot celebrity movie star, as long as you are a nice one.
countessm3countessm3 on August 19th, 2016 10:40 pm (UTC)
I don't know if I buy that the public persona, so carefully crafted by marketing teams to appeal to demographics and sold by publicists to the masses, is a private problem. Oscar Wilde lost himself in his own persona and only regained it when he went to prison. The same thing was threatening to happen to Zac.

Of course the Fab Five love him as HSM Zac; my nieces are the same age and I remember quite well their gushing "he's so cute" whenever he came on tv. (Bleh). But there's nothing wrong with him enjoying himself in this situation at the Olympics.

I could be wrong, but I think Daddy Efron is there based on a camera pan I saw on twitter. That makes me happy.

I'll add that he's looking good in all his pictures. Granted, I can't "read" him with his sunglasses on, but he seems to be exercising self-discipline and moderation, which is good.
kleth on August 22nd, 2016 05:34 pm (UTC)
"But there's nothing wrong with him enjoying himself in this situation at the Olympics."

Ha! Exactly my point. But he may be telling himself that he shouldn't be enjoying it because he got there for the wrong reason, because of what he is rather than who he is. I'm saying he shouldn't worry about it, because what he is is part of who he is. It's OK to be a pretty-boy celebrity movie star, even when it gets you free trips to Rio, as long as you are suitably grateful.
countessm3countessm3 on August 22nd, 2016 09:58 pm (UTC)
You perhaps chose the worst time for it with my head full of modernist texts and modernist critiques...

"I'm saying he shouldn't worry about it, because what he is is part of who he is."

Undergirding this statement is the assumption that all these parts come together to make up a whole, a unity which is Zac Efron. But, we know that the self is fractured and fragmented, divided between (amongst others) consciousness and unconsciousness, superego and id, self and self-as-other or self-as-object (self-reflexivity), self as private and self as public, etc. All these selves competing with each other create internal contradictions (not so surprising when you read Paul's letters about doing what he does not want to do, and not doing what he wants to do, etc. Good and evil at war inside). I think for Zac the contradictions are strong between who he is, who people think he is, and who he plays on the screen. Like an authentic artist, he wishes to be true to himself at all times (even if he doesn't fully know what that self is), and thus probably hates playing the other parts that he has to play, even if (another contradiction), he derives pleasure sometimes from playing those parts.

By the time I finish this book on Modernisms I am going to sound like a schizophrenic.
kleth on August 23rd, 2016 07:10 pm (UTC)
All true. I am only advising Zac to resolve one internal contradiction, that between his desired self and being a celebrity movie star. Once he decides to integrate those two aspects, he will be much more comfortable with himself.

"I think for Zac the contradictions are strong between who he is, who people think he is, and who he plays on the screen."

And who HE thinks he is. This may be his basic problem. I suspect that he still doesn't know who he wants to be. He has clearly been passing through a series of stages, experimenting along the way. Is this what I would like to be? Or maybe something else?

Naturally, while still trying to find himself, he is distressed by the ways in which others perceive him.

At age 28, he may be a little slow to reach some conclusion, but perhaps he will discover himself before too much longer.

Meanwhile, the Fab Five didn't get their pizza with Zac Efron. Is this an outrage? Or a sinister plot to get the girls to his house in L.A. and have his way with them? He's very fit, but can he manage a five-some? I suppose it would fun trying. I'll never have that problem.
countessm3countessm3 on August 23rd, 2016 10:10 pm (UTC)
Call me crazy, but I don't think Zac's into teenagers. He seems interested in older people - they're more on his mental level.

*I'll never have that problem.*

I’ve been invited, but all I can think is “This is a great way to get a venereal disease.” Heck, while I was in L.A. this year for AWP (writers conference) I was propositioned by a very beautiful girl at Bar Sinister – she’d had professional dance training – but I’m fairly certain the entire city oozes herpes, so I declined. I’m careful because I should have a disease and I don’t. That said, if Zac has anything, we’ll just wrap it up and be good to go, lol.
kleth on August 25th, 2016 03:38 pm (UTC)
Yes, it's sad. Zac seems to be a little too emotionally mature to still pursue teen-agers, even teens with the awesome, hip-crushing thighs of gymnasts. Oh well. I guess having all the older women he wants does offer some compensations.

This is a question that Ellen has yet to ask any her guests: Would you do Zac Efron if you knew it meant sharing his venereal disease. This is a question we should all ask ourselves. Know Thyself as someone once advised.
countessm3countessm3 on August 28th, 2016 12:23 pm (UTC)
>Oh well. I guess having all the older women he wants does offer some compensations.

Hey, some of us older women have head-crushing thighs. (-:

>Would you do Zac Efron if you knew it meant sharing his venereal disease.

This is what condoms are for! (-:

>Know Thyself as someone once advised.

Shakespeare. (-: "To thine own self be true."

kleth on August 29th, 2016 07:39 pm (UTC)
Close, but not quite the same thing.

As for the source, I couldn't think of it as I was writing (at least, I couldn't be certain) and I have since queried the source of all knowledge, Wikipedia, and found this:

Know Thyself "is one of the Delphic maxims and was inscribed in the pronaos (forecourt) of the Temple of Apollo at Delphi according to the Greek periegetic (travelogue) writer Pausanias (10.24.1)"
countessm3countessm3 on August 29th, 2016 09:51 pm (UTC)
Ah - the oracle at Delphi. Gotcha.

Apollo was bisexual. (-:
Aliciapop86 on August 19th, 2016 11:02 am (UTC)
I love the video of Laurie Hernandez being the first one to hug Zac.She was so excited. I'm proud of Zac going all the way to Rio to met Simone instead of waiting until she appear on Ellen.
Bee: Zac – CStC Premiere - grinningjeezbee on September 30th, 2016 07:18 pm (UTC)
Smart move of him agreeing to this and great outcome all around.