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Bee: Zac – CStC photocall - in front of fieldjeezbee on November 1st, 2014 06:17 pm (UTC)
That's not much of a costume but I don't like dressing up either so I totally understand.

Those Bear Grylls pics are nice.
laurenlipkinlip on November 1st, 2014 10:22 pm (UTC)
is it just me or does anyone else find it odd how sami is liking every pic on instagram of them or liking pics of them and thanking fans on insta for the support and replying fans on dms and etc? is she trying to be liked ? because its coming off as needy and wanting attention?

Edited at 2014-11-01 10:28 pm (UTC)
yoooozacharyefrons on November 2nd, 2014 10:18 pm (UTC)
And on October 31st, it was announced that Sami was signed to a modeling agency. I feel like that's all she really wanted out of this relationship but I could be wrong.

Still don't think she deserves those racist comments and bashing.
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on November 3rd, 2014 01:25 am (UTC)
i'm glad you admit you could be wrong because i think it is really unfair to make assumptions about her motivations when no one has any idea. but you are absolutely right that she does not deserve racist comments and bashing.

imo she got connected to that agency because she's friends with dylan penn who models there (and was friends w/ her before she knew zac afaik). being connected to zac might have been a good motivation for the agency to sign her because it does bring them attention... that's more on the agency than her. the fact that it was picked up by gossip sites obvs hinges on zac's name... but that, again imo, has more to do with gossip sites wanting to use his name for clicks than with her wanting to get attention. she obviously benefits being tied to him but that does not mean her goal is to use him.

this isn't in particular about you but in general w/ some fans... what seriously bothers me about this line of thinking, i.e. pretending any of her success is only down to him, is it really undermines her worth. women already take enough shit from men, why do (the generally) female fans have to pile on just because she doesn't fit whatever fairytale they have in mind. now don't get me wrong... some fans i think have a genuine concern but overall it's like, she obviously has achieved some significant things in life without him so let's not shit on her as a social climber prematurely.
yoooozacharyefrons on November 4th, 2014 02:30 am (UTC)
I agree about it being more on the agency than her but that'd sting a little, knowing that's (most likely) what got me my contract. The only thing I'm really not happy about with his latest friends is that he's even hanging out with people like Leon Starino. Hopefully he learns from his mistakes but I guess we'll see.

I do agree that some fans are too stuck on the Zanessa thing, or Zashley, and want a fairytale but I don't think it's meant to bash her as a female. There are a lot of male and female celebrities who are taken advantage of (or even turn a relationship into a business deal). Whether Sami is an accomplished girl or not doesn't tell us if she's necessarily a good person--we don't know for sure. All we can do is speculate, much like we have with Mo. You get a bad feeling about someone and sometimes that's all you have to base your opinions on. It's not that I like or don't like Sami... it just seems a little off so far. If she's genuinely good for Zac, that's fantastic and I want her to stick around to make him happy. If she's enabling poor behavior... that's another story. This may not be the case with this girl, but unfortunately, there are people have no boundaries when it comes to getting what they want.

Edited at 2014-11-04 02:31 am (UTC)
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on November 4th, 2014 04:03 pm (UTC)
i dislike starino too but it's worth noting, since i've seen comments mistating this, afaik sami has nothing to do with starino, she was not his friend first and she didn't bring him into zac's life. he was in contact with zac for some other reason or through someone else.

with mo it isn't a bad feeling exactly. it's more like mo makes it clear by his tweets etc that he gets off on zac's fame. the only good thing about mo is that at least mo pays for shit whereas some of zac's other 'friends' use him for his fame *and* money. but that's also a bad thing, mo has money and will give zac whatever he wants to make him show up.

yeah i hope sami doesn't enable bad choices but as so many families/friends discover, even with ordinary people, you can love someone a ton and still not be able to help them if they are determined to make bad choices.
laurenlipkinlip on November 3rd, 2014 01:27 am (UTC)
sami doesnt deserve the racist comments at all, but its not surprising, its not as bad with the comments towards fka twigs ( rob's gf) but it seems its aiming that way, all we know about sami is her education and she's smart and what not, but i think its time for sami to just stop responding to fans at this point and giving them hope. she probably gonna realize that sooner.

we dont know sami or what her motive is, ( if there is one or not) but sami seems nice i guess, we dontk now if shes using zac or not, and i doubt sami getting a modeling contract was any help from zac at all, considering her friend dylan is also a model, but who knows.
kleth on November 3rd, 2014 08:23 pm (UTC)
"I feel like that's all she really wanted out of this relationship but I could be wrong."

You can't think of any other motivation for a young woman to accept an intimate relationship with Zac Efron?
yoooozacharyefrons on November 4th, 2014 02:17 am (UTC)
There are loads of reasons but to constantly communicate with his fans, relaying messages for and from him? It seems strange.
laurenlipkinlip on November 4th, 2014 10:32 pm (UTC)
i think she's trying to be liked buy zac fans and its like why? i get the first time liking pics and etc, but it seems she's doing it alot and for some reason liking a drawing of zac and vanessa because zac's in it,
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on November 3rd, 2014 01:49 am (UTC)
clearly some other fans have a problem with it but i don't get why. like if she was being an asshole to fans then that is one thing. but why anyone is mad about her being nice, i don't know. idk why she does it but i don't think she is needy or wants attention. especially the latter since none of her actions have caught any media attention at all, just fans.

personally i don't particularly want her to comment and like and such because i think they are opening a pandora's box in dealing with fans (and fans range from nice to certifiable). problems like dealing with pandering fans and they could end up with backlash without even realizing it (or deserving it tbh).

but she can be whatever she wants to be and do whatever she wants to do as long as zac is cool with it. he's the one that is actually in a relationship with her.
laurenlipkinlip on November 3rd, 2014 01:53 am (UTC)
I just find it odd how she keeps liking pics and thanking fans, after that one fan Sami replied to fans think it's just ok to leave her demanding comments and saying things like tell zac I love him and etc, I get she's getting tag in and etc but it's just werid how she's liking pics of them. Would u do thst if u were her?
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on November 3rd, 2014 02:16 am (UTC)
well that's why i think eventually she will figure out she creates more problems by commenting, like for instance those demanding fans you mention, even if she is just trying to be nice. and eventually i think she'll stop because it becomes a hassle and draining and in the end, she ends up with far more hate for it than anything else.
laurenlipkinlip on November 3rd, 2014 02:26 am (UTC)
Really? I don't think fans will hate her, they seem to love her and think she's perfect right now, what could cause fans to hate and her and turn on her when all they do now is just leave comments on her page saying how she's perfect for zac, she's great and this, I'm sure she finds it faltering and nice but at some point she's gotta think random fans saying how she's great and how her and zac are great is just odd for her, but I guess this is all new to her and she's gotta get used to the media and nos gossip mags but I doubt she's gonna spend her time what strangers are gonna say on us weekly or people magazine.
countessm3countessm3 on November 3rd, 2014 07:57 pm (UTC)
I'm just extremely jealous she has time to respond to all those Instagram pictures/comments. I have a ton of work she can do if she's bored - like grading these Annotated Bibliographies. I hate annotated bibliographies and I have to grade 20 of them. Also, I have a presentation, a seminar paper and a creative writing story due in the next month is she's interested.

I'm pretty much jealous of everybody who has time these days...
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on November 4th, 2014 03:43 pm (UTC)
fuck i hate annotated bibliographies
countessm3countessm3 on November 4th, 2014 09:21 pm (UTC)
On behalf of every professor forced to burden their student (and thus themselves) with this task, I apologize.
countessm3countessm3 on November 3rd, 2014 01:41 pm (UTC)
The only thing that made me lose some respect for her is she quit her job for Zac Efron.

I mean, why quit your job? If Zac asked me to be his girlfriend, I'd tell him 'Sure. As soon as my transfer application to UCLA's Ph.D program is accepted, I'll run right over there.'

And, I'd work to keep my 3.9GPA. I'm not going to sacrifice my career for NOBODY.

I mean, you quit your job for a guy, and then the relationship ends. What do you have left? Nothing. And it's all because you lost yourself inside of some man. But she's neither the first nor the last woman to give herself up in order to live for someone else (for me, such self-sacrifice is reserved for my child alone).
Beejeezbee on November 3rd, 2014 01:53 pm (UTC)
Idk where you get that she quit her job for Zac.

It appears the job in her previous company ended recently but that can be for many reasons. She only worked there for like 3 months so perhaps she just didn't like the job or perhaps they her job went away or some other reason... I really think this is totally jumping to conclusions we don't know anything about.

Edited at 2014-11-03 01:56 pm (UTC)
countessm3countessm3 on November 3rd, 2014 07:47 pm (UTC)
I read that somewhere, but I can't remember where at the moment.
Beejeezbee on November 3rd, 2014 07:53 pm (UTC)
I'm pretty up-to-date with everything and I haven't seen anything to that effect.

Are you sure it wasn't just a fan who was jumping to conclusions?
countessm3countessm3 on November 3rd, 2014 07:58 pm (UTC)
It was probably a fan jumping to conclusions. I can't remember the source; that's the problem. Memory is full -irrelevant and old data will be discarded in favor of important, new data.

laurenlipkinlip on November 3rd, 2014 05:46 pm (UTC)
maybe she quit her job because she didnt like it or it wasn't for her? we dont know why? yes it does seem fishy cus of timing ,but we dont know why.
countessm3countessm3 on November 3rd, 2014 01:43 pm (UTC)
I don't think he's in costume. That mask is a convenient way to avoid Paparazzi shots. Too bad he can only get away with it Oct 31st. (-:

Still, his body is bangin'.
kleth on November 3rd, 2014 08:27 pm (UTC)
"That mask is a convenient way to avoid Paparazzi shots."

Haha. But he can't suppress long-established reflexes - most of the shots show him pulling his cap down to conceal his already-masked face. Come on, Zac, ease up and relax.