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Oct 14th
10:11 pm
copenhagen/(in many words) i hate that stupid hat more than i hate anyone he dates*  

Thx to @ReneRedzepiNoma and team @Nomacph. You've created a sophisticated, one of a kind culinary experience I'll never forget. You rock! - Zac Efron on WhoSay

Apparently this restaurant is amazeballs and came in #1 for the World's 50 Best Restaurants Awards and has two Michelin stars. No surprise that Zac, a foodie, would go there, lol. For more details, click here.

^yes this is the hat i hate.

^omg that girl on the right's hair.

^still that hat grrrrr, would burn if i could burn.

^lol at least i can't see the hat here.

^this hat is okay, also what apps does he have on his phone.

^omg he has waze, me too! what are the odds he uses the ninja wazer icon? also he has a lot of mail it looks like. i do too... 50K+ unread messages on my ehs account lol. also he doesn't use folders o_O

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essay or, in many words, i hate that stupid hat more than i hate anyone he dates*:

IDK how many pics I'll post from this trip since it is sort of on the private side of life, but I wanted to nip this in the bud. Like I don't even sometimes know how to write these things because I do not understand how people can be so high school about his relationships. I don't want drama. I didn't want drama about Vanessa, or about Lily or about anyone. So if you comment here, no bitching about Sami... unless it becomes readily apparent she's legitimately an awful person*, like drug fiend or kicks puppies awful.

Which leads me to: to the fans hating and bitching about her, you need to stop being awful to and about anyone he dates. Don't be mean about her, don't harass her, don't stalk her… your motives are PAINFULLY transparent and they aren't about his best interests. And in treating her like shit, you are, in fact, going against his best interests. (Again unless it becomes apparent his SO is truly a shithead).

Other points… rme at the suggestion they called paparazzi. I'm not naive but of the two options, they called or someone at the airport tipped a local photog off, I'll go with the latter. That happens way more with travel. And now that the (maybe two or three) paparazzi that live in that area know he is there, they'll track him. They'd be stupid not to.

LOL at the suggestion this is in response to those dumb "pining over Vanessa" rumors and ditto that to the bearding rumors. He's been hanging out with Sami for awhile now so if him dating her is in response to a stupid radar article, good on him for being fucking psychic about it weeks in advance. And bearding: again, she's been around awhile, low visibility. And we (or at least I) know for sure he likes girls. And altogether, he has nothing to promote right now, so no good reason to think showmance.

Re: being private or not private. Like do people forget he was photographed with Vanessa? It isn't really that strange to be photographed with a significant person in his life. It is interesting that he posted a personal picture with her on social media. (Though dear lord, please do not let TeamZE post any paparazzi pics this trip. In fact, it would just be better for TeamZE to avoid shipping topics *altogether*... like I'm cool with Zac posting/following what and who he wants but anyone else posting on the topic just makes for a fucking train wreck in fandom... even though part of it is that fans should just chillax on hating on his SO so easily). But, I've said this other times now, in some ways I am glad he's allowing himself to be more open online. And this goes with the next point…

I am happy that Zac went on a trip like this. I mean maybe there is a business component somewhere, but even so, he's said often that he would love to travel the world. And yet I think for a long time, he was afraid to do so because of the paparazzi and the attention. So I'm glad that he seems more comfortable. I feel like maybe that is progress. Also honestly, Denmark >>>>>>>>> another boring beach. Even if it means no shirtlessness.

As to Sami herself. My assessment is incomplete tbh. We don't know enough yet. I do prefer her with darker hair, but that's just imo lol. I like it that she seems to be educated and independent though I liked it more when she was employed (now she's updated and seems to be between jobs). I am not impressed by some of the people she hangs around.

But really the thing I care about is how she treats him and respects him and his needs. That is the problem I have had with some of his other 'friends' and, since he's been hanging out with some of them again, I have to say I hope they have changed some of their behaviors and maybe put him first.

*I reserve the right to dislike known puppy kickers and drug fiends more than that hat.
Mood: awakeawake
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Bee: Zac – Details - plaid - profilejeezbee on October 15th, 2014 03:15 am (UTC)
Thumbs up for Copenhagen. That's a much more interesting travel destination than eg Ibiza or some boring beach in Mexico. He looks good and I hope they have a good time.

I was surprised that he tweeted that pic with her tbh; it's quite a change from the past where he wouldn't volunteerily offer up insight in what he is doing in his private time or with whom. Personally, I prefer he keeps his private (esp love) life off his social media but if that is what he genuinely wants, no problem. I just hope he doesn't go overboard with it.

Idk what their relationship exactly is, perhaps they don't even know yet. You need to start somewhere and trying to get to know the person - sometimes it goes the distance and sometimes it doesn't work out. It's really silly to go overboard in either direction and forcing labels on them; just wait and let them figure it out. Unfortunately for Zac, he can't do that entirely in private like the rest of us. I'm sure he would have wanted to keep her name out of the media a bit longer but unfortunately fans had to tell everyone her full name. It must suck when your own fans are making your life harder.

Anyway, in general I don't care who Zac dates. The one thing I do care about is that she isn't a negative influence but hopefully someone who not only makes him happy but can provide the necessary stability to not endanger his sobriety. That doesn't mean she needs to be a saint or stay home every night (nobody in LA is) but not a partygirl who hangs in nightclubs all the time and gets drunk every other night.

No matter where this goes, I hope she is "good" for him. We don't know much about her and unlike previous affiliations she doesn't set off every alarm in me right off the bat. From the outset she seems like a nice and interesting person but like Cady alluded to, I'm not sure about every single thing either. I'm going to keep an open mind and hope for the best.

I just wish that people who are terrible at reading between lines, understanding context and using common sense would stop jumping to conclusions, esp. when outcome is so obvious BS (yes, that was sort of passive-agressive and no, I'm not going to elaborate). How about everyone just waits a bit and sees where things are going/what is happening and doesn't make ridiculous assumptions at the very first second - about their relationship or her.

Edited at 2014-10-15 03:21 am (UTC)
The Writers Denmusewriter on October 15th, 2014 03:29 am (UTC)
Ok, I don't know her so I'll withhold judgement. But, like others, I have some reservations about who she hangs around with. Then again the same could be said for Zac so I guess that's a moot point. As long as his current group respects his sobriety, he can go around the world with whoever the heck he wants as far as I'm concerned.

What bothers me most is the fans who automatically adore her because they think he's "in love" and that that is the cure for everything. Like he's incapable of being happy while single. Give me a freaking break.

*end soapbox*

And I don't dislike the hat but the facial hair is a whole other matter...;)
(no subject) - ehs_wildcats on October 15th, 2014 05:06 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - lipkinlip on October 15th, 2014 01:03 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - jeezbee on October 15th, 2014 02:00 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - kleth on October 15th, 2014 07:31 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Miranda gives everyone a chancemirandagirll on October 15th, 2014 03:23 am (UTC)
Honestly, all I care about in terms of his personal life is his health and sobriety (also happiness but I figured that was a given). He looks really good here so as long as he stays sober and healthy then I'm good with whatever within reason ofc
laurenlipkinlip on October 15th, 2014 07:49 am (UTC)
wht i dont get is how fans just knew zac and sami were and hqve been hooking up? did i miss that memo? because zac didnt say anything at all?, yet it seems they been hanging out for a while and fans juat knew and its likw um we have no idea whats going on and such for?, yet us weekly is reporting how its not serious at all? so it seems zac takes all his non serious relationships on vaca then;,? and second we sont know if sami is good or bad or gonna end up whatever but this all seems way to fast and for some reason zac is like look at us, yet he hatea the attention? he cant have it both ways
Beejeezbee on October 15th, 2014 02:18 pm (UTC)
Zac wasn't "look at us" - he's just living his life. Or do you want him to hide at home 24/7? Because he's famous he will get photographed and get attention, but that doesn't equal him asking for it. Once we get daily pics with PDA of them or him parading her around on red carpets, then you can say he's asking for the attention but not when he's trying to go on a vacation trip without fanfare.
(no subject) - kleth on October 15th, 2014 07:35 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Aliciapop86 on October 15th, 2014 10:31 am (UTC)
I would love to go Noma. It sounds like a great restaurant. Zac is so lucky that he can travel the world at anytime he wants. I want Zac to be happy and healthy. As long as the she makes him happy, I have no problem with Sami (except for over processed blond hair that is killing me because she is stunning with dark hair). It is his responsibility to keep himself healthy so I won't put that on her or his friends. He knows which friends he can hang out with and which friends he should avoid. If you going to have questionable friends then you have to know how to manage them.

Why it so important for some fans know the status of his relationships? He is a single man and he is going to date women. Let him and Sami figure out what they want and if they are comparable for anything long term.

Edited at 2014-10-15 10:34 am (UTC)
Beejeezbee on October 15th, 2014 02:09 pm (UTC)
You're right that his health is ultimately Zac's responsibility and that does include who he hangs with. But unfortunately he hasn't always shown that great judgement in the past with his "friends" so I think it's natural that this is the aspect of her (and basically every new person he hangs out with a lot) which some of us are wary of.
(no subject) - ehs_wildcats on October 15th, 2014 03:56 pm (UTC) (Expand)
laurenlipkinlip on October 15th, 2014 11:09 am (UTC)
what i dont get is that fans are like ''if he's happy were happy'' since when do fans have to be happy for zacs relationships? i'm happy he looks good? but its like some think we should follow the rules of who he dates we should be happy with? let alone, also yet alot of fans honestly had no idea who sami at all then all of the sudden so many of fan are like fans of her and think she's perfect and great, yet we really dont know anything about her at all except for her schooling and from juding from her instagram page that is out in the public to see so imo its fair game to look, she was in a serious long term relationship for three years till late summer and now shes in denamrk with zac does anyone not see this at little fast at all? no? sami is no michelle witch was world war three and i see why and same with lily witch ppl thought all different things, but if sami was some hardcore pariter, drinker/ did drugs/ whatever i'm pretty sure this fanbase would turn on her in a second,

ive seen all types of comments so far, some racist but mostly calling her ugly and not pretty, sami is pretty but apparently it seems ppl want zac to date some drop 10 gorgeous bombshell, theres some who think zac's just flat out pathetic now and a fame-whore and how this is all pr, witch doesnt even make any sense, she isn't famous, or let alone an actress so how would that work, but i did see that she is trying to become some designer now/ stylist, so i guess her being seen with zac could help her out, but yea
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on October 15th, 2014 03:46 pm (UTC)
i don't get your logic

a) you are happy when zac is happy (or at least looks good)
b) zac is (apparently) happy being in a relationship with sami
c) you don't get why people are happy for him being happy in a relationship and you don't get sami and (you think) it's all too fast and (you think) it's all too PR-y?

but bottom line, no one is asking you (or anyone) to be happy about sami specifically but people shouldn't be assholes about his SOs either (unless it becomes justified). people don't have to care much about or be interested in the girl he likes but be happy for him being in a happy relationship.

"if sami was some hardcore pariter, drinker/ did drugs/ whatever i'm pretty sure this fanbase would turn on her in a second" you are right about that and that is what i mean about justified dislike. but since we don't know enough about that, we can't make any decision. and even if that did turn out to be the case, i still don't think people should harass her on instagram or w/e.

i'm glad you at least seem to get that racist comments are inexcusable. people calling her ugly are jealous twats. as to things being too fast... idk what to say to that, except that is a judgment you are making based on your life and your beliefs and what you think you know of them. this is his life and he can go on trips as he sees fit.

the fame-whore thing is soooooo tired. here you try to be like 'she isn't famous blah blah blah so pr doesn't make sense' which you are correct about. if he wanted attention he'd be seen with selena gomez or someone similar, lol. but then elsewhere (your earlier comment) you seem to call him out for wanting attention but also not wanting attention and that he can't have it both ways.

he's just trying to live his life. and, as someone famous, he lives under constant scrutiny. as i pointed out on twitter and in a comment here, obviously the paparazzi are stalking his hotel. fans will always take pics even when he says no, they'll sneak them. he can't do shit about that and them taking pictures in his private time doesn't have anything to do with him wanting things 'both ways', it's just a part of his job, probably one of the least favorite parts of his job. which is why i am glad, like by just going on this trip that he seems be letting go of some of that anxiety and figuring out that the positives to these life experiences outweigh the negatives of the pictures and attention.
(no subject) - lipkinlip on October 15th, 2014 04:49 pm (UTC) (Expand)
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Aliciapop86 on October 15th, 2014 11:55 am (UTC)
I give Zac props for running in a foreign city. I tried running when I visited San Francisco and got lost twice with Google maps ( I am an American LOL). Prop to him.

Edited at 2014-10-15 11:56 am (UTC)
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on October 15th, 2014 03:00 pm (UTC)
A tennis player staying in the same hotel has called out the paparazzi guy for stalking the hotel. There is an article here about it https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bt.dk%2Ftennis%2Fwozniacki-skoed-dette-billede-af-paparazzo-i-koebenhavn-nu-forklarer-fotografen-sig&edit-text=&act=url.

I know naysayers deadset on believing celebs always call and always want attention will still say he called but I can't help you if you are that cynical. Like legit the guy is lurking for hours there, so long his wife brings his baby to see him. If Z was calling and wanting attention, he wouldn't have to lurk like that.
Bee: Zac - GQ - Jumping on Car 1jeezbee on October 15th, 2014 03:46 pm (UTC)
It's even days not hours.

But it's sort of hilarious that the tennis player is publicly complaining only to be told that he is not there for her.

Edited at 2014-10-15 03:49 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - pop86 on October 15th, 2014 07:07 pm (UTC) (Expand)
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kleth on October 15th, 2014 07:51 pm (UTC)
I'm glad to hear that she is dark-haired. My first thought when I saw the first photo was, She's not his type.

Too fast on her part? If Zac said "I'll go to Copenhagen with you," I'd say "How fast can you pack?".

Since she's not in The Business, I'd be more interested in knowing how they met than anything else. Friend of a friend? Fellow member of 12-step program? Someone who dinged his car in a parking lot?
laurenlipkinlip on October 15th, 2014 08:14 pm (UTC)
If you look at her instagram , she was in a three year relationship with some music producer or music person, thst ended in the late summer, then it seems they were first spotted together in mid September with Shiloh and Dylan penn on a apparent double date, then apparently fans saw the chemistry right away don't know how they knew but apparently they know and know zacs life so well, and been hanging out since September and it's a month later and us weekly is reporting how it's not serious idk about you but do your non serious relationships across the globe? She's also an apparent stylist /clothing designer or whatever she does. So she's in the business but not in the actor business
Melanie JMelmos_World on October 15th, 2014 11:04 pm (UTC)
I'm happy for him and Sami (I don't know who she is though but still). A lot of the people hating on her that I've seen at least are still the same people who are mad about him and Vanessa breaking up. They are the types who hate anyone he's dating because he's dating someone and they can't accept that their fantasy of dating him will never happen. I am only talking about a select number of his fans. Sadly, some of them are very childish about this stuff. Anyway, that's my thought on this matter.

Also, is the Lily that was talked about Lily Collins? Cause I don't think they were ever actually dating.
countessm3countessm3 on October 16th, 2014 02:24 pm (UTC)
Apparently she's educated and as long as she doesn't lead Zac down the drug-fueled path, I'm fine.

The amount of racism still prevalent today astounds me. They must all live in the mountains of West Virginia or the backwoods of Mississippi.

On the other hand, Zac sees in color (that is, he appears to exclude white women, which I don't understand. That's probably because I'm attracted to men of all shades. A good-looking man is a good-looking man, whatever his skin.)

PS: I HATE that hat too. That was my first thought.

Edited at 2014-10-16 02:26 pm (UTC)
kleth on October 16th, 2014 06:38 pm (UTC)
Haha. I recently drove through the mountains of West Virginia, and I can report that NO ONE lives there. Except for a few houses scrunched up against the Interstate, there were no towns or farms for miles and miles. Just one mountain pushed up against the next one with no level ground between.

Excludes white women? Your definition is too narrow. He has said he likes the dark, exotic types (Filipino et al. in the case of Vanessa). This new one looks pretty white to me.
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Bee: Not Pleased - Aladdinjeezbee on October 18th, 2014 12:53 pm (UTC)
I was wondering why nobody picked up those jogging pics but it makes all sense now.

That pap who was stalking them for days, knew he was the only one and consequently nobody else could beat him to the punch with pics. So instead of releasing them the common way (for online as well and after each time he "got" them), he kept following them around and collecting the pics.

And now they've released a whole set of pics from different sightings for print only. Going for maximum profit. I assume the release for online coverage will come after they exhausted the potential for print.

Going by the pics they picked for release, I can already see some tabloids which don't have any info beyond the obvious creating a story (ie making up/writing some fanfiction) around these pics. Probably not the birthday present Zac wanted.

Edited at 2014-10-18 12:54 pm (UTC)
laurenlipkinlip on October 18th, 2014 01:58 pm (UTC)
Does thst explain why Jared is not buying zacs pics lately? Because I'm surprised he hasn't made a post from the gym pics from days ago or the ones from Getty from the 14th-16th
(no subject) - ehs_wildcats on October 18th, 2014 07:12 pm (UTC) (Expand)
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Miranda gives everyone a chancemirandagirll on September 11th, 2015 07:25 pm (UTC)
looking back @ this basically a year later is so odd lol