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Mar 27th
07:53 pm
Well, *that* happened  
LA Times has perhaps the most non-sensationalized version of this story, so I'll lead with that:
Actor Zac Efron got into an altercation with at least one homeless person early Sunday in downtown Los Angeles after the vehicle he and a friend were driving became "stranded," police officials confirmed.

Officers responded to the scene around 2:25 a.m. Sunday to Temple Street and the 110 Freeway, where Efron, 26, and his friend were waiting, LAPD spokesman Richard French said. Police officials said the officers were flagged down and pointed to the scene by a third party.

Police Cmdr. Andy Smith said there were indications of an altercation, but no details on what transpired were immediately available.

No arrests were made, French said.

TMZ Articles, the first:
Zac Efron mysteriously ended up in a bad area of downtown L.A. just after midnight Sunday ... and ended up getting violently socked in the mouth by a sketchy transient ... law enforcement sources tell TMZ.

We're told cops were on patrol under the Harbor Freeway when they saw Zac and a man he identified as his bodyguard. Cops saw Zac and the other guy in a full-blown melee with at least 3 other people.

After breaking up the fight, cops questioned Zac. He told them they had run out of gas and were sitting in the car. Zac said while waiting for a tow truck they threw a bottle out the window -- he never said what was in the bottle -- and it smashed on the pavement near a group of transients.

Zac said the transients confronted him and the bodyguard because they believed the pair hurled the bottle at them. Zac says 2 of the transients attacked the bodyguard and when Zac got out of the car to help, he got cold cocked in the mouth. Zac said, "It was the hardest I've ever been hit in my life."

The area where this occurred is rough. Cops are on high alert for drug deals and gangs. One source says Zac was "obviously intoxicated."

Law enforcement tells TMZ ... no one was arrested because they viewed it as "mutual combat."

And the second, in which the 'bodyguard' tries to help with mixed results:
Zac Efron was a hero who risked his own life to save the life of his "bodyguard" -- so claims the bodyguard.

We spoke to the "bodyguard" who says he and Zac were "cruising" around downtown L.A. Sunday at 12:30 AM, when they suddenly ran out of gas and rolled to a stop at the bottom of a downtown L.A. off-ramp.

Later in our conversation, the man -- we agreed not to use his name -- said it wasn't so much "cruising" as it was going to a restaurant in Little Tokyo in the downtown area.

TMZ broke the story ... Zac told cops they had run out of gas and for some reason threw a bottle out of the car which shattered and angered some nearby transients. Zac claimed the transients attacked the man and as Zac went to help him a transient viciously struck Zac in the face.

He tells us ... the transients actually went after him with "a spear" -- like a shank -- and stabbed him in the face, stomach and chest. He says Zac then got out of the car and swung a vodka bottle at the transients to fend off the attack. He says Zac actually thwarted the attack and saved his life.

So the man says the bottle Zac claimed to have thrown out the window wasn't really thrown at all. He says Zac used it as a weapon during the attack.

BTW ... we checked, and the "bodyguard" has a criminal record for drugs and violence.

Please note that even TMZ has updated it to make it clear that this did not actually happen in Skid Row but a mile away, still not the best neighborhood apparently but all the connotations of that area were incorrectly associated.

People added this:

Hours later Efron was spotted in high spirits Sunday night at the Hollywood Improv's Laffest show.

Noshing on nachos and chicken wings while sipping on green tea, Efron took in comedy from the nine different up-and-coming acts, alongside a male and female pal, an onlooker tells PEOPLE.

"The group laughed a lot," the source says. "Zac was a sweetheart to staff. He appeared very relaxed. He and his two friends kept to themselves. He appeared sober and nothing at all seemed out of the ordinary. He did not look injured or different by any means."

I've thought a lot about what to say and I'm still not even sure what to say. Whatever happened, the situation is understandably suspect and the 'bodyguard' explaining it was a bottle of vodka is definitely where I think him trying to help clarify the story and defend Zac just made the story worse. But whatever, the silver lining is that no one was arrested and no one was seriously hurt.

I'd like to reiterate that those of us who closely follow his sightings etc, we know he has been trying… struggling definitely but also without a doubt trying. He has been continuing to seek help, he isn't paying lip service to wanting to be sober. But as I've said any time this has come up, slipping was always likely, that is just what happens with addiction. We all wish we could waive a wand and fix it for him. But this is all on him.

Getting angry about it is understandable. That is definitely an emotion I have at times… like from the very first day of knowing he was using drugs… it's like wtf dude, you KNEW better than that. The other emotions that are nothing new to this day are sadness and concern. I worry I'll wake up one day and find out he is dead. At the beginning, I even had nightmares about it, sometimes it was an overdose and sometimes it was violence. I've learned over time to come to terms and even forced myself to back off a little, because the truth is, I'm not his friend, I'm not his family, I have no way of trying to help except keep hoping in the best for him and believing in him. And from what people still say about him and from his work, he still gives me plenty of reasons to think he's worth it.

I do have to say I'm glad that most people online, for example ONTD, are just wanting him to be better. People who take pleasure in trashing him gleefully for failing or those who think he's an asshole just because he has a problem disturb me. For one thing, this is a real human being who is struggling. Secondly, not to sound twee but, we have precious little time on Earth. I've seen people leave far too soon, including my mother and also, as most of you know, almost myself… and what a terrible and truly unforgivable waste to spend any of it spreading hate and hoping for the downfall of someone, someone you don't even know.

Anyway, it just really sucks right now because it feels like Zac was so close to a turn around professionally. And, whatever his situation is, now he's just sabotaged himself again. He can't catch a break or really more to the point… he can't make a break for himself.
Mood: tiredtired
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hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on March 28th, 2014 01:57 am (UTC)
p.s. i keep coming back to his moment of fear about losing it all and it kinda breaks my heart a little

countessm3countessm3 on March 28th, 2014 01:58 pm (UTC)
he can't make a break for himself...

As one who believes in Free Will, I think every action has a reaction, every choice we make has consequences.

As one who believes in PreDestination/Fate, etc. I think God's on Zac like white on rice, and this is The Holy Smack upside the head with the words, "Quit foolin around, will ya, and get your arse back on track!"

God never gives up on us - that is, He is always waiting at home with open arms for the prodigal son to return. But sometimes he quits actively searching us out/intervening and leaves us to go our own way, and that way is death.

God's not letting Zac get away with it - and that's the sign of divine love and grace.

laurenlipkinlip on March 28th, 2014 01:57 am (UTC)
so your saying and what tmz is reporting that zac is struggling to stay sober? because ive read half of this and it sounds like zac is struggling yet he goes to meetings and etc?

hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on March 28th, 2014 02:52 am (UTC)
trying to stay sober is always going to be a struggle. that's the thing. i mean the initial period is the worst by far, but he could be years down the road and have been clean for a long time and then slip, for example philip seymour hoffman.
The Writers Denmusewriter on March 28th, 2014 02:03 am (UTC)
Cady your way with words is stunning. Well said. My legitimate question is this (and I'm so behind on reading the articles) but for someone who supposedly got hit in the face, he sure looked fine at the ESPN shoot. There's a lot that doesn't add up.

I only hope if he is facing relapse that he can find the strength to get help again. There is no shame in that and I hope he realizes that. </p>

The people who wish him ill will are just sick.

hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on March 28th, 2014 02:29 am (UTC)
yeah there are a number of things that don't quite make sense or match up, though i imagine tmz is the exaggerated version of things. their sources seem especially dubious given how they so badly messed up the location, much to zac's detriment as now skid row is on the tip of everyone's tongue tbh. even the times don't match up. and ofc the cop in the la times says only there were indications of a fight not that they saw the fight. so who knows if it was really that much of a brawl or rather some pushing around. and all of that doesn't even account for the 'bodyguard' statement.

so somewhere amongst all this is probably the sort-of-half-truth? idk.

i do personally think it is strange that if the cops were on patrol for drug deals, why did they not go further than just getting the details on what happened. they didn't owe zac or anyone anything and the situation, to us, seems very suspicious so i wonder why they didn't investigate further given their patrol goals. i just keep thinking bobby goren would've searched the car, lol.
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Bee: Zac – CStC - ani - crying 1jeezbee on March 28th, 2014 02:05 am (UTC)
Sad to hear about Zac's troubles. I hope that whatever demons he's fighting he will find the insight and willpower to overcome them. Likely we will never know what really happened and that's ok - it's not our business. As bad as this looks and tbh is, I guess I'm just happy it didn't end up even worse; no arrests, photos, etc.

As said, it's really a pity that this happened right now because it will likely create a major career setback. I suspect it is extremely frustrating for Zac if he isn't getting new work and now it might be even longer for someone to take a risk on him. It's all a vicious circle and I really hope he can break it.

I wish he would focus the time he's not working on something productive. He needs to find other ways to define himself. But if he wants to keep making movies, why not try to use the time and invest in learning more about it. It might help him pick better projects than TAM too. And I hope he actually tries writing a script and not only talks about it. If he can write himself a good screenplay, that could be more helpful than anything else. It's never too late to pick up the slack again.
ryanefronryanefron on March 28th, 2014 02:11 am (UTC)
If anything, I hope this experience will be enough to scare him away from falling back into addiction. Even though it sounds unlikely that drugs WERNT involved, I pray that they weren't. Its seemed like he's been doing a lot better, and keeping his head above water.
Whatever ends up happening, I don't think it will sabotage his career. If people like Shia Labeouf can still land roles, so can Zac.

But thanks for clearing all of that mess up with the articles, its much appreciated.
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on March 28th, 2014 02:46 am (UTC)
the problem is that studios need insurance coverage for him in case something happens to him while filming but the more problems, the less likely anyone will insure him. plus producers only gamble on someone unpredictable if they are a huge draw and he isn't right now. but it does baffle me that people who are secret (or even not-so-secret) drug users can still get insured and get jobs, while someone who has actually admitted they have a problem and is trying to get help can't. at the same time, in a sad way, once you try to be clean you're almost less stable than a functional addict.
ZacEfron_newszacefron_news on March 28th, 2014 02:36 am (UTC)
Very well written Cady. The emotions you've felt, I've felt and it's exactly what I would have said. The worrying of waking up to some devastating news was always, always with me over the last several years. It's hard to separate yourself from it and there were times I would question myself to the amount of time I've spent/dedication I have for him. But at the end of the day I have faith in him and I see the good in him.

Unless you've had an addiction or a family member with an addiction (I have), you can never fully, completely understand what it's like to go through it - be it alcohol, drugs or a combination thereof. It's a daily battle. You can not judge another person until you've walked in their shoes. I wish Zac nothing but the best and hope eventually he wins this awful battle.

Another hurdle to overcome for Zac and for the fans who follow him closely and continue to support him. We'll get through it.

And my opinion on TMZ - while I don't think they completely fabricate their stories - they are most certainly embellished to make the story more dramatic. Their facts also aren't always correct in their stories either. Their rehab stories on Zac still irk me to this day. And it doesn't really matter exactly what transpired earlier this week. The story is out there and the damage is done.

Edited at 2014-03-28 02:38 am (UTC)
Sapphirasapphia on March 28th, 2014 03:28 am (UTC)
We all need to support each other just to get through those moments ... We also need to be strong. But when something bad happens in his life, I always think of his family. I think it is harder for them than for us.

Edited at 2014-03-28 03:28 am (UTC)
Zefron AbZefronAb on March 28th, 2014 02:40 am (UTC)
I have so many things to say. First of all I hate TMZ, for being so insensitive in such an important topic.

I was just thinking after reading the "bodyguard" statement, and I just highly doubt that one of his bodyguards, would have done an interview with TMZ, and said that he thrown a bottle of vodka, I mean that would be stupid. I'm not saying that he doesn't drink anymore, because he's the only one who knows, but I just don't think anyone involved on his team, would spill a comment like that.

And the other thing that it just doesn't make sense to me, is that if he was "obviously intoxicated" Why would the police officers, let him go? Even though he wasn't driving, they could have made a blood test, or blamed him to have start the fight, or whatever. Is just that the whole story seems like a bunch of crap. (Again I'm not saying that he doesn't drink or do drugs anymore, but the story itself doesn't make sense to me)

I would like that him or his team, could say something.
Miranda gives everyone a chancemirandagirll on March 28th, 2014 02:55 am (UTC)
The only thing that bothers me is the people who actually want harm to happen to him. I'm more than likely in no position to comment, and I'm probably not one people's favorites in this fandom but I have a positive outlook about the situation.

I feel like none of this is going to improve further until the underlying cause of his issues is corrected. Like I feel like the avoiding the party scene and people, not going certain places, or going home is just things to fix his behavior but it doesn't change what is going on in his head if that makes sense.

Feel free to delete this comment.
Sapphirasapphia on March 28th, 2014 03:02 am (UTC)
Thank you for this post C. And thank you for sharing with us your thoughts and fears.
I agree that much of the story does not add up and things are exaggerated. From TMZ we shouldn't wait another.
But anyway, I hope that Zac will have enough willpower and wisdom continue to struggle and break out of this vicious circle, in his personal and professional life. I believe in him.

Edited at 2014-03-28 03:03 am (UTC)
Isabelabelaserpa on March 28th, 2014 03:04 am (UTC)
All of this is so confusing...I don't even wanna know the details. And I really hope we don't get more of it.
Regardless of what happened, I really hope he gets the help he needs. I have faith he will get better. We are all rooting for him!
kleth on March 28th, 2014 08:29 pm (UTC)
"I don't even wanna know the details. And I really hope we don't get more of it."

Actually, the more details that come out, the less alarming the story appears. TMZ is a gossip site and will use any source to create a story. Once KABC and the LA Times started looking into things, all of a sudden the incident didn't happen "in Skid Row," the matter of the glass bottle disappeared, etc.

The "bodyguard" seems to be the one who was drunk. His story is incoherent. If he was actually stabbed with a shank in the face and chest, I think the police would have considered the matter to be a serious crime.
Nicole Millerkellycefron on March 28th, 2014 03:33 am (UTC)
There's just so much to this story that doesn't add up that I'm not going to try to comment on it. What I will say is I hope he can pull it together and find a way to redefine himself. He's taking great steps, but I don't think he's quite figured out how this new life works with his environment, especially seeing how much he really has had to give up. For a while I was hoping he'd move out of CA or even take break for few years. As much as I like him as an actor, I'd much rather have him live a healthy happy life versus seeing him struggle and pressure himself with his career on top of an addiction.

I am glad that at least some fans do understand what it means exactly to have addiction and the realities of the recovery process because the most annoying thing about this whole situation is s just seeing how painfully uninformed different people are. I kills me when I see people act has though he's suppose to be cured or make statements like "Well if he was taking this seriously". Since I feel an unnecessary rant coming on I'll just end this with I hope that he knows people are behind him, and not just from a career standpoint, because I honestly think that needs to take a backseat. I really hope he can put his life back on track and can find some peace and clarity.
The Writers Denmusewriter on March 28th, 2014 03:45 am (UTC)
Your comment about the lack of knowledge on addiction is SPOT ON. I won't claim to be an expert but the fact that some people think a stint in rehab is a cure all just astound me. He will fight the temptation for the rest of his life. Rehab and meetings give him tools to help but it's a constant battle.
annabelle83 on March 28th, 2014 03:34 am (UTC)
I really hope he's at least trying. I have been wondering if he's more interested in hiding rather than stopping his problems. It seems he's getting more and more secretive everyday. I think he was doing much better when he was constantly spotted clubbing.

I can't focus at my work all day. So sad. :(
Aliciapop86 on March 28th, 2014 04:29 am (UTC)
No offense but I must disagree with your statement. I think Zac wasn't hiding from public but he was trying to live his life without the constant glare of the media. He doesn't enjoy being famous. IMO Zac only wants fame so he can work and he has no interest in having daily threads on gossip sites.
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zacsfagzacsfag on March 28th, 2014 03:51 am (UTC)
I'm always a little suspicious about TMZ. Maybe this isn't as bad as it seems. I really believe he's trying. At the same time, I know how hard it is. I am related to an addict and it truly is a daily, life-long battle.
Alice Kingmydailythoughtt on March 28th, 2014 04:03 am (UTC)
Okay i never comment but i just want to say thank you for this post. It's good to see we're actually all in this together when it comes to supporting him. We don't know what really happened but what we do know is that Zac is fighting a very hard battle, and sadly with it comes these kind of situations. The one thing i've always had for him is mad respect, I don't know him personally but I will never stop admiring him. Not only professionally, but also for his continuos efforts to fight this, which are tremendous. His addiction obviously has made him do stuff that he regrets, things that I would never applaud him for but I know he has a problem and I wish with all of my heart that he is able to overcome it and get through this hell. I know he will because that is the guy I came to love and admire, he's a fighter. I know I shouldn't be so emotionally invested but I could never give up on him, 3 years ago at the CSC premiere he shook my hand, looked me in the eyes and said 'thanks for everything' and in that moment I just knew the reason I have supported him all these years and I told myself I would continue to.
Aliciapop86 on March 28th, 2014 04:32 am (UTC)
Zac is still insurable because no crime was committed. There is no police report or any evidence indicating that he relapsed. There is only speculation and that is not enough to prevent him from getting insurance. If the insurance company has any concern they may request that Zac take a random drug test before and/or during film production as a condition to the policy.

An actor becomes uninsurable because he increase amount of premium and risk. Lindsay Lohan is a good example. She is too much of a liability therefore she too expensive.

Edited at 2014-03-28 04:46 am (UTC)
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on March 28th, 2014 06:17 am (UTC)
i should have clarified that part of the insurance issue is not just him getting it at all, but that his rates could become cost prohibitive. but overall nobody wants to deal with someone who might not be able to put in 100%. and in a way, that is like one of the saddest things to me because zac always gave 200% while working, even on the most ridiculous things like bet on it, lol. so to see that be a concern, when we know how counter to his nature that is, is depressing.