Zac and Michael B have great chemistry. They seem like real friends.

I think That Awkward Moment should be renamed "Bros" as it seems more about bromances rather than romances.

PS: If Zac is ever tempted to use again, he need only look at Leo DiCaprio and realize that is his future if he picks up.

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It doesn't sound like you have much faith in him keeping clean. No one is even talking about that anymore because I think he'd rather put it behind him as much as he can. He proudly wears is 6-month sobriety chip thing around his neck and he moved to get away from the people he was hanging out with so he could surround himself with more positive people. I think he's strong enough to resist the urge. Not saying that temptation can't come up at anytime, but if he hangs out with better people it's less likely and I think he's got the strength to resist, plus I think he's taking sobriety more seriously this time around than the first time he went to rehab.

Ok, serious question (though I guess it doesn't matter at this point), but do we know that he actually went twice? I always thought that was speculation but I see people saying it everywhere...

Personally him going twice isn't all that illogical, and it might not necessarily have the negative twist that's sometimes applied to it. He could've been worried about his sobriety and easily checked into another program and attended to separate programs for personal reasons. There's no facts to support that he did though, at least not that I know of.

"...that is his future if he picks up." (I assume you mean "picks it.")

But that's the irrationality of substance abuse in his case. He had already picked his future - climbing the acting ladder, and now he says writing and directing. None of this, of course, would be possible for a drunk and/or druggie. All that partying added up to exactly zero as far as attaining any of these goals; in fact, it postponed and endangered them. How many hundreds of hours did he waste getting smashed when he could have been writing? For a guy who won't settle for any grade but an "A", this whole episode was just mind-boggling.

I agree, but I think it just goes to show that it's not hard to lose track of what you want out of life. The lines between right and wrong can really become blurred when your trying to find yourself which is what most of us are doing in our 20s. I honestly think it was something he had to experience in order to grow and learn. It's a tough lesson that could've caused him to lose it all, but a lesson nonetheless. I don't think we have to worry too much about him though, he seems to be on track again.

"Insanity is repeating the same mistakes expecting different results."

My son's father was a coke addict. He had a full Tennis scholarship to Duke University when he got pulled into it. He was arrested alongside the Dean's son, who also got busted. He lost his scholarship, his opportunity to get a great education, his family, his friends, his money, and eventually, his freedom.

I met him after he got clean and I thought his big house and cars were a result of his construction company (during the housing explosion) doing well. It never occurred to me it was a front for a sizable drug operation. He was clean, but he was addicted to that fast life - houses, cars, women, trips to Los Vegas. And he was so smart, that I never knew. He kept everything away from the house. Nobody ever came to the door. Nobody ever called. Until one day a guy came up and asked about some drugs, and because nobody ever came to the door at all, it suddenly struck me that this guy was an undercover cop and my son's father was still involved in "the business". I knew what he was, and the cop knew that I knew what he was, and he smiled because he knew I didn't know jack, and I told him "I don't know anything about it and I don't want to know anything about it." So he left, and then certain things started falling in line, like late work hours and such.

So they bust him and the FBI offers him a deal if he turns over a bigger guy, and you know what he does? He agrees and *sells behind the FBI's back*. I'm gone by this point, but I hear about it. He gets slapped with a repeated offender charge (by now, he was up to three) and they send him away for 10 years, released on 7.

So you don't walk away from cocaine and put it behind you. There's a whole mindset that goes into cocaine - fast and dangerous and the money flows. And that is just as addictive as the drug. Part of recovery is learning to be okay with being bored.

I was just saying that you don't seem to have faith that he'll stay clean. I'm sorry about what happened with your son's father, I wasn't trying to offend you in anyway. So I hope you didn't take it like that. I was just saying that if he keeps dwelling on it, then that might make it more likely for him to relapse again. So he shouldn't completely put it behind him but learn from his mistakes and move forward with his life knowing that he made this mistake but he learned from it and it made him stronger. Plus, there are all different circumstances when it comes to drugs. Everyone's story is different.

That's cool. I wasn't offended so much as frustrated by your lack of knowledge about the nature of addiction - but that's not your fault. You've made the right decisions in your life, so how can I expect you to know about the wrong decisions? My bad - sorry. I just know that the average is one in every hundred who stays sober/clean, and addiction is a life-long battle. It's something he's going to have to fight?

Do I have faith that he'll stay clean? Honestly, I don't know.

there's so much zac and mbj

I need a moment

I love his hair like that...

Zac with Sandra, so good!