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Dec 18th
11:29 am
New Trailer and Poster for Neighbors  


UK Version here... featuring the alternative title they're using in some places, 'Bad Neighbours'

ETA: Forgot to add the stuff Seth said in the interview that went along with this:
For his frat-boy nemesis, Rogen brought in a new face (and a perfectly sculpted one, at that), Efron. Rogen told us Efron actually agreed to star in the film before the script was even written just based on the pitch from writers Andrew J. Cohen and Brendan O'Brien (both of whom had worked on Judd Apatow films like "The 40-Year-Old Virgin").

Rogen revealed that even though Efron was new to their heavily improvised style of comedy, he acquitted himself to it quickly. Rogen said, "He was really good at [improvising], and was really super funny in the movie, which is annoying, because he's super handsome too. I don't know how many points we've got to give this kid."

Rogen called out one spontaneous moment from a scene he and Efron had together that he truly wasn't expecting: "There's a scene where we're talking, where me and him were trying to bond, and we're talking about who Batman is to us. I'm talking about how to me Michael Keaton is Batman, and to him Christian Bale is Batman. And he whipped out this impression of Christian Bale as Batman that was really impressive. It's actually in the movie because it was so good. But again, I was like, 'F---, how many talents can one dude have?'"
Mood: awakeawake
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Bee: Zac – CStC Premiere - grinningjeezbee on December 18th, 2013 06:33 pm (UTC)
Nice job.

The trailer and poster are pretty good. Glad that things seem to be going well with this movie. :)
laurenlipkinlip on December 18th, 2013 06:44 pm (UTC)

does anyone know how to make an ontd post? ive done it twice for this trailer and ive got rejected twice, i thought i did everything right but idk.
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on December 18th, 2013 07:01 pm (UTC)
it is hard to know what is wrong without seeing your code but i would check the help pages for more info.

though on this note, i actually submitted one a few minutes ago with a ton of other stuff too... like all the TAM stuff etc. so you don't need to worry at least for this trailer.
laurenlipkinlip on December 18th, 2013 07:03 pm (UTC)
okay thanks,
yea apparently the second time i submitted it the link was wrong or w/e idk so i just gave up lol
laurenlipkinlip on December 18th, 2013 08:46 pm (UTC)
how do you deal with people's rudeness on ontd? because it seems people are generally annoyed or dont get why i ask alot of questions in general? somtimes google doesnt have all the answers so i just assume people have better answers.
Miranda gives everyone a chancemirandagirll on December 18th, 2013 07:37 pm (UTC)
I need his Christian Bale impression lol
kleth on December 18th, 2013 09:11 pm (UTC)
I'd like to point out that Seth Rogen is yet another co-star who has fallen in love with the Zacster. He has said very favorable things in multiple interviews. He has even emphasized his admiration for Zac's body, which most guys would be reluctant to do. I hope he's wandering all over Hollywood, babbling about how great Zac is to everyone he meets; it can't hurt.
Miranda gives everyone a chancemirandagirll on December 18th, 2013 09:25 pm (UTC)
hope he's wandering all over Hollywood, babbling about how great Zac is to everyone he meets

That's Shia LeBeouf in NYC lol
annabelle83 on December 19th, 2013 12:33 am (UTC)
Zac is so great in comedies. He has several advantages over other young actors. Those are his looks, charm, comedic timing, and name recognition. I think he can be a huge star as a comedic leading man. He can try serious movies sometimes, but I think he should mainly pursue a career in comedy. I hope his production company develops more comedies. After Liam Hemsworth's and Selena Gomez's failed attempts at action movies, I'm quite worried about some of his future projects in development. They are too risky.
Beejeezbee on December 19th, 2013 01:35 pm (UTC)
I agree that Zac is great in comedies but I don't think he should focus on it. The fact that Liam's movie (which wasn't an action movie anyway but a thriller) and Selena's Getaway bombed had other reasons and I don't think it should keep him for going for the genres.

Imo, every one-sided career - be it comedy or action - has a much bigger risk at flaming out early; people get tired of actors doing the same thing. And it applies big time to comedic actors. Typecasting (even as comedic actor) is making things much more difficult.

The other thing is - comedic actors often aren't taken serious. And while we don't know for sure... imo taken serious and having credibility is something Zac wants (indicated by all the indies etc he's been doing).

I'm happy for Zac to do comedies but I wouldn't want it to be the main thing. Zac's decision anyway, but I think we have to disagree here.
annabelle83 on December 19th, 2013 11:03 pm (UTC)
Zac won't be believable in action/thriller movies right now IMO. At least not in the next decade or so. If he wants to do action movies, I think he should wait until he turns at least thirty.

I'd love to see Zac in a variety of genres, but realistically, I think he has much bigger chance at making it big doing comedies. There are plenty of comedy actors who have a long career in Hollywood. Their name is like a brand and attracts audience based on their name alone. Zac's name is big, and I think he can establish his brand. Then he can produce, write, and even direct his comedy films in the future!

Zac has said he prefers comedy to drama, and people love seeing him in comedy. I understand Zac has been working really hard to be taken seriously as an actor, but I'm afraid it's not working. I just hope he doesn't get pressure too much and can enjoy acting without getting stress. I think the most important thing for Zac is to stay sober and healthy, and doing comedies which he loves will help it. I'm scared he might get burned and badly hurt if his action film fails.

Edited at 2013-12-19 11:05 pm (UTC)
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on December 20th, 2013 02:27 am (UTC)
i think bottom line, he likes acting. i'm not sure the genre matters that much, just that it is a challenge. so while limiting himself to one genre or another might keep some of the pressure off him in one way, he'll become dissatisfied by the monotony.

i think he can be in any type of film he wants... it just has to be good and that will help people accept him. this is ofc easier said than done, for many reasons. so he has to find a way, if he wants to stay in that profession, to keep confident and stable despite any job setbacks.
Beejeezbee on December 20th, 2013 02:43 am (UTC)
Zac won't be believable in action/thriller movies right now IMO.

I don't think I agree here. I think it all depends on the role and the project. Sure, he won't be believable as badass hardcore action hero á la Schwarzenegger but there are plenty of roles he would be believable in. That applies to all genres though... just as he won't be believable in all comedic or dramatic roles either. He has a harder time to sell action-y roles by himself right now - but again, that applies to everything which isn't 100% in his current wheelhouse.

I think he has much bigger chance at making it big doing comedies.

Not sure I agree here either. I think Zac is good in comedies but if we're being honest... there are stronger comedians out there. Plus, he will always have to fight the problem in comedies that most of them are written for more "interesting looking" people (ie not traditionally handsome like Zac). I know I've stopped reading plenty of comedy scripts because it's clear they wouldn't work for Zac since his looks won't work for the character and its behavior. Unless you're talking about romcoms (that's where his looks totally work) but those movies are a dying species (plenty of articles about that) AND they get absolutely ZERO respect.

The fact that people seemingly like Zac better in comedies has more to do with the fact that 17 Again and now potentially Neighbors are just more appealing to the mainstream than his romance or indie dramas and in the former case turned out to be decent. I'm absolutely convinced that the second Zac makes a mainstream action/adventure/sci-fi/etc movie which turns out well and is liked... people will be open about liking Zac as an actor/in that genre as well. He just needs to find that right movie.

Zac has said he prefers comedy to drama

I must have missed that comment. I remember him saying he likes them but not that he prefers them in general. And tbh, he might just have said that in a specific promo context because his development projects (which are bascially all passion projects since he's cherry picking there) clearly seem to speak a different language: vast majority of thrillers, sci-fi etc.

Zac has been working really hard to be taken seriously as an actor, but I'm afraid it's not working.

Why do you think this? A transition from teen heartthrob to adult actor was always going to take time and have bumps in the road. Transitioning is one of the hardest things in the business, esp if you come from an area (Disney, TV, musical, kiddie movie) which gets absolutely no respect at all. And imo he was was right to get a bit out of the view and lay low-ish to the mainstream for a while - they needed to forget him a little bit and stop hating him. And he needed to get a bit older - now he's mid twenties where roles for male actors slowly start to get interesting. The people who don't take him serious, are the ones who haven't seen any of his recent movies, or hated them. But most who did watch any of his indie dramas did gain some respect for him; and those indie dramas should get him the chance to meet and audition for bigger "serious" movies. It just takes time and a bit luck with the movies working out. Zac wasn't particularly lucky in that respect - eg At Any Price was falling a bit flat which nobody expected or could foresee. But that's just business... every movie is a lottery. He will have more luck again... he just needs to keep going. Being taken serious was never going to happen overnight... or in a short time.

While Zac has a strong typecast and image as person (being associated with Disney, as heartthrob etc), I think that he doesn't have that as "adult actor" yet. I believe he would be accepted by grown ups in various genres if he does the "right" projects. It would be a total pity if he volunteerily gets himself into a comedy typecast as adult actor, just as he was shaking off the Disney/musical one. Esp since then transitioning from a comedy typecast into "serious actor" is incredibly difficult (I think Jonah Hill just recently gave an interview going on about how hard it is).

kleth on December 20th, 2013 08:47 pm (UTC)
"I believe he would be accepted by grown ups in various genres if he does the "right" projects."

I agree with all your premises.

He can transition into action roles by doing what he has been doing - co-starring with more recognized actors who can play the older lead.

Look at Joseph Gorden-Levitt, too young to really lead an action flick (although his bicycle thriller was a good project for a younger actor) but co-starring with Bruce Willis and Christian Bale in action films. The audience will go to the movies to see the older, name star and will "discover" Zac in a major but supporting role.

I actually think Zac is ahead of the career curve for former teen idols. Christian Bale worked for 20 years, averaging about one movie per year and many of them were pretty dinky, before he got his break-out role. Zac has played a major role in 16 movies in the past eight years. He is getting new roles based on what he has done - such as Parkland, for which he was hired just because the director saw Paperboy.

As you say, I think his popular image is being maintained by people who have not seen many of his recent movies. If he keeps getting new roles, that image will fade as more and more people see him in a variety of roles, whether comedic or dramatic.
annabelle83 on December 22nd, 2013 12:42 am (UTC)
Zac was asked "Comedy or Drama?" and answered without hesitation, "Comedy!" and it was during the Charlie St. Cloud promotion. I have a good memory so I definitely remember that. :)

I personally think Zac is better than a lot of comedians. I find most of comedy actors annoying instead of funny because they try too hard. Zac is funny without even trying because he's so naturally charming and likeable. These are really great qualities for an actor and I think he needs to use them to his advantage.

I can think of plenty of stronger dramatic actors, but that doesn't mean Zac is inferior to them. For example, Dane Dehaan is already a great actor, but he looks totally out of place in the new Spiderman trailer. I wonder if his acting doesn't work well in more commercial films. Some actors do better in serious stuff while others do better in lighter stuff. I think Zac shines much brighter in comedy than drama. He's still a good dramatic actor though.

And I think Zac's good looks actually works better in comedy than drama. Some critics said he's "too pretty" in their AT ANY PRICE and PARKLAND reviews. And I read some reviews complaining his prettiness is "distracting" in serious films.

I'm not against him doing drama. I'd love to see him in drama/action/sci-fi/thriller films because I much prefer them to comedy. But I honestly doubt if the general public can forget where he came from and if he can shake off the teen heartthrob image. That's the main reason I think he'd better focus on comedies instead of torturing himself trying to win the public's respect (doing serious movies occaionally is fine). There are various kinds of comedies. Zac can do romcom, buddy comedy, dramedy, etc. So, being a comedic actor is not bad at all!
Beejeezbee on December 20th, 2013 02:43 am (UTC)
Part 2:

In short, I don't think it's not not working. It's just working a bit slower than we were hoping for. A lot has to do with Zac's movie choices though. As I've said numerous times, I think the romantic trifeca of CStC - NYE - TLO has a lot to do with this.

I think the most important thing for Zac is to stay sober and healthy, and doing comedies which he loves will help it. I'm scared he might get burned and badly hurt if his action film fails.

I absolutely agree with the first part. Staying sober and healthy has to be the basis for his life, career and success. And if he needs to take a break, he should.

But I disagree with the assumption that comedies = less pressure (if I'm reading your comment correctly). Yes, the pressure to make a successful movie and open it at the box office is enormous and it's probably a lot of stress on him and his sobriety. But I don't think the genres per se are different. It all depends on the movie itself. Yes, a movie like Autobahn would have been a big risk to fail but that has to do with a tired premise and the lead character being on screen all alone for long stretches of the film etc, not the genre itself. You could even argue that comedies are more dependent on star power (and hence pressure on the lead actor) than action movies in general. Because adventure/action/sci-fi movies often sold through built in awareness of the source material, high concepts and CGI etc while comedies are typically original movies which are always harder to sell. Plus, most comedies don't travel well; only few of them make real money internationally. And consequently, the pressure to make them successful in the US is bigger than with action oriented properties which can recoup in foreign territories when the US is underperforming. I think more important to manage the stress is to create and maintain an environment which allows him to deal with it properly (eg maintaining a therapist and/or ongoing addiction counseling) than avoiding certain genres or not taking any risks movie-wise.

I guess we have to agree to disagree. I like him in comedies - as a matter of fact I said to Cady the other day that if I could cherry pick a next project for Zac I would love to see an action comedy... taking the increasing comedy acceptance and adding an action element to move him one step further to the fanboy territory - but personally, I don't think focusing entirely on comedy is the best strategy.

Damn, that became longer than I intended.
Sapphirasapphia on December 20th, 2013 03:47 pm (UTC)
"Damn, that became longer than I intended."

You're a very long time didn't write something like that, so it was good. :)
I always say that I was interested to read your opinion
it allows a better understanding of the overall situation in cinematography. But some of your words to me was sad, and it made ​​me think. I am talking about: "romcoms - those movies are a dying species (plenty of articles about that) AND they get absolutely ZERO respect." Yes, I understand that it has zero respect, but I still think that the genre can die only if people stop loving or stop dreaming about love. But, at the same time, I understand that if the business does not make money, it really probably soon we will see only silly comedy on the screen, that do not require deep emotions.
But if we talk about all your post, I agree with you, Zac has to work in all genres, did not dwell on one. Many actors suffer from the monotony of offered their roles, and I think Zac is also passed through it.
Zac said he goes there where nobody doesn't expect him, so let him do it as often as possible. I would like to see him in action movies, hard thriller and science fiction, and the positive and negative roles. I want him strong emotions, both good and evil.
LOL! I hope you can understand. what I write.
Miranda gives everyone a chancemirandagirll on December 20th, 2013 05:04 am (UTC)
Idk, I may be wrong here but it sounds as if you want Zac to be this mega huge movie star overnight which realistically isn't how it's gonna happen or works. I mean look at Michael B Jordan. Dudes been acting professionally since he was 11, and he's Zac's age now and people are JUST starting to know who he is respect him. Obv, circumstances are different but respect takes time and choosing the right projects no matter the genre.

Edited at 2013-12-20 05:05 am (UTC)
kleth on December 20th, 2013 08:54 pm (UTC)
"respect takes time"

See my comments above. At the same age, Zac is clearly way ahead of MBJ on the career track. He's really doing very well. In ten years, he could be eating Hollywood for breakfast.
annabelle83 on December 22nd, 2013 12:49 am (UTC)
The difference between Zac and Michael is that Zac is already a "star" and people expect him to deliver money at the box office. Miles Teller said Zac is jealous of him and Micheal because they're slowly getting noticed by the public. Zac became a star overnight and he's been under a lot of pressure that he has to maintain the status in order to keep his career. If he doesn't deliver he'll fade. Micheal doesn't have as much pressure as Zac.
Miranda gives everyone a chancemirandagirll on December 22nd, 2013 02:23 am (UTC)
That's not why Miles said Zac was jealous of him and Michael. It sounds like you're putting pressure on him to "deliver" and there are plenty of actors who don't "deliver" at the BO or acting abilities but they aren't fading (see selena gomez or liam hemsworth). At least Zac has the acting abilities part for drama and comedy down. But I don't think it's fair to compare the BO for his indies versus his studio films because for one there are multiple factors that have to be in place to "deliver" at the BO.

Uh, Michael probably has more pressure than Zac now. People are going to expect him to be as great as he was in Fruitvale Station in everything else he's in now.