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May 6th
11:27 pm
Possible 'Die in a Gunfight' Movement  

No idea if this means the project is imminent or eventual but some movement is nice to see if this doesn't fall through.

Also, fwiw, I have seen another tweet or whatever, other than Stoller's "Untitled Fraternity Comedy day 24", about them changing the name of Townies. It is probably a good idea overall (Townies is sort of undistinguished imo) but sucks a bit cause they had some good PR mileage under that title from shirtlessness and his hand breaking. Oh well.
Mood: boredbored
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Sapphirasapphia on May 7th, 2013 06:44 am (UTC)
Thanks for the news especially about the "DIE IN A GUNFIGHT"! :)
but what's known about the director? He is also a beginner?
On IMDb it has no director's works, but the information that he taught something about the movie in Australia.
All the recent work of Zac doing with beginners.
Bee: Zac - SNL - Ahoi 1jeezbee on May 7th, 2013 12:31 pm (UTC)
He has directed one feature so far: Wish You Were Here. It was playing in competition in Sundance in 2012 and will finally open this June in the US. It got decent but not great reviews so far although idk how much they are skewed a bit since the majority is coming from Australia where the director is from. But I like him better than Anthony Mandler.

At this stage of his career, it's difficult for Zac to attract high-profile/name directors on his own. Esp if he needs someone who isn't developing the project from scratch but comes on to an existing script etc. So, going with someone who has shown some talent but hasn't broken through yet, might be better than hiring someone who has done many movies but never "made it" or has his good times behind him and hence is now available and willing to take a project like DIAG. Eg. Rob Reiner is someone who was great 1 or 2 decades ago but hasn't made a good (or even half-way decent) movie for a long time. I liked the concept of You Belong To Me but I was majorly worried that the movie would turn out crappy because of Reiner (who is directing a different movie this summer so even if Zac is still attached to YBTM which I'm personally not sure about, it's not going to happen for at least 1-1.5 years). In that sense, it might be a bit more risky to work with someone like Kieran Darcy-Smith or a total newbie over someone experienced but there is at least a chance they deliver a great movie while with some established "directors for hire" the best you expect is ok.
Sapphirasapphia on May 7th, 2013 12:54 pm (UTC)
Yes, I understand that. Zac said this in 2010, he is looking for new directors who are not afraid to experiment. And better to try to do something than to wait until a big-name directors believe in him. It's difficult, it's risky, but it changes something.
Bee: Zac – Watts - soccer - tweet suitjeezbee on May 7th, 2013 01:16 pm (UTC)
Yeah. It also has the advantage that if he "finds" someone new (and young) with potential, they can keep growing together. Looking at respected actors a bit older than Zac, like eg Gosling or JGL, they both worked with young and fairly inexperienced directors (Derek Cianfrance for Ryan Gosling or Rian Johnson for JGL) early on in their career before they became hot names and they kept doing more projects together. I hope the one or other newbie Zac works/worked with turns out to be equally good as the 2 examples mentioned.
Sapphirasapphia on May 7th, 2013 01:34 pm (UTC)
Yeah. One is bad - it's roulette, you never know when the project goes well. How many actors and directors remains undervalued? I sincerely wish him (and us) of patience and luck.
Zac is ripe for such films, it might be something new and interesting .... but ... Again a lot of "buts".
Sapphirasapphia on May 7th, 2013 01:47 pm (UTC)
Bee, please tell me, Zac's production company refers to the production of "Are We Officially Dating?"

By the way I saw they will be at the Cannes Film Market.
Bee: Zac - People Sex - Flipped Collar 1jeezbee on May 7th, 2013 05:43 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it looks like Zac's production company might be producing AWOD but it's really not a big deal. Probably more a technicality for financial reasons. If we're being honest, it didn't look like he was majorly involved in development. But as the lead who probably got it financed through his participation, he obvious has some say in the production which is reflected in this and Jason & Michael being EPs.

As for Cannes - yes, it will be there to sell more territories. But that's just business as usual for every single sales agency and every non-studio movie which hasn't sold to every territory yet. Exclusive Media will be there as well with Parkland and </i>AAP</i> (even if they don't mention it). It doesn't mean a movie is screening or anything special, just that its sales agency is selling international rights. I'm sure they all were at EFM in Berlin too.
Sapphirasapphia on May 7th, 2013 05:55 pm (UTC)
O!Parkland and AAP This is good!
Yes, I realize this is not a competition. But I am also interested in selling. According to customer activity can be judged (a bit) about the quality of the film. If they does not want to buy ... hmm ... "The Paperboy" did not want to buy :))) I just hope that my country will buy some of the films Zac. :)

Edited at 2013-05-07 05:56 pm (UTC)
Beejeezbee on May 7th, 2013 06:00 pm (UTC)
The Paperboy did sell well to my knowledge. Presales (like for AWOD or Parkland) typically happens based on script, its perceived commercial aspects and cast involved.

The international distributors typically hope for the best just like we do and release it based on how it turned out. In the case of The Paperboy I'm sure the buyers were hoping for better/more commercial results as well. But that's how it goes.
Sapphirasapphia on May 7th, 2013 06:11 pm (UTC)
Hmm, I thought they were going to show some part of the finished film ... After all, the script is just the beginning ... Although it is said Parkland has a good script.
Beejeezbee on May 7th, 2013 06:31 pm (UTC)
It's possible that they screen some footage, like a few clips or a sizzle reel but that doesn't really tell you how the movie turns out in the end either. But you're right, it's better than nothing.
Bee: Zac – GQ - blue shirt - looking downjeezbee on May 7th, 2013 12:07 pm (UTC)
I sort of expected that Anthony Mandler wasn't attached anymore (in recent casting news for him DIAG wasn't mentioned as one of his projects) but I'm surprised they seemingly put a new director on it already; I was rather expecting that the project was in development hell/dead. Not that a new director is a bad thing (although I hope they really improve the script).

As for Kieran Darcy-Smith - I'm cautiously optimistic. He's not a choice which blows me away but I like this better than Mandler. I was never very fond of him based on his music video/commercial work.

Darcy-Smith's feature debut was in competition in Sundance and while the reviews weren't all raves, most took issues with the script and story (which he wrote though) and he got some decent notices overall. The movie also got some awards attention in Australia (where it is already out since he and the movie are Australian). So, that looks much more promising than Mandler.

I'm not sure either if that means the project is moving forward. MRC hasn't mentioned it as one of their projects in development for a long time and all their recent projects are a tad more commercial than I think this is - at least if they keep it R-rated (as it is written now). But we'll see. Perhaps a new director gives it the necessary new push.

Sapphirasapphia on May 7th, 2013 01:18 pm (UTC)
« But we'll see. Perhaps a new director gives it the necessary new push.»
Let's hope for that. Especially now, when Zac filmed all their scheduled proeety. I am a little sad, I want new active projects.
annabelle83 on May 7th, 2013 01:28 pm (UTC)
Glad to see that Die in a Gunfight is still alive. After Charlie Countryman received bad reviews at Sundance, I was relieved Zac didn't do it and I wondered if he would eventually get to film DIAG. Going with someone who's not a music video director is a good thing. Critics' major problem with Charlie Countryman was the director didn't know how to deal with a story or a character. Hope this new guy attached to DIAG does a good job if it really gets made.

I think this new director Kieran will change the script a lot. The original script didn't have a plot, so he'll probably do some re-write himself.
Bee: Zac – Details - sitting - reverse chairjeezbee on May 7th, 2013 01:44 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I'm glad too this is not a "commercial or music video" director. Most of the recent movies done by first time "commercial or music video" turned out to be not good. Not only Charlie Countryman whose script I actually liked (and the critics were going hard on the director) but also the latest Colin Firth movie, Arthur Newman which was directed by Dante Ariola who was attached to Charlie Countryman earlier as well. And Rupert Sanders' Snow White and the Huntsman got also negative notices outside of visuals; and god knows how crappy Carl Rinsch' 47 Ronin will turn out.

There might be a successful transition from commercials to features ~every once in a while~ but the vast majority of them turn out to be rather flops. Visuals alone just aren't cutting it, esp outside of special effects blockbusters. I rather have a director who can tell a story well with simple visuals than a movie which only saving grace is looking good.

IA that the script needs a major rewrite. The original writers were really green back then and have gotten a few writing jobs since then, so perhaps they gained enough experience to do a better job with a rewrite. They did have talent imo, just not enough experience to construct a good plot.
Sapphirasapphia on May 7th, 2013 02:02 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry I did not understand you're talking about the script DIAG? There's a bad story? I just don't know anything about it ...
Bee: Zac – CStC photocall - tree bgjeezbee on May 7th, 2013 05:44 pm (UTC)
What we're talking about is that we think the script has issues and that we hope they get solved with a good rewrite.
Sapphirasapphia on May 7th, 2013 06:13 pm (UTC)
ОК now it is clear
countessm3countessm3 on May 8th, 2013 10:50 am (UTC)
Visuals alone just aren't cutting it, esp outside of special effects blockbusters. I rather have a director who can tell a story well with simple visuals than a movie which only saving grace is looking good. ***

Bless you. Interestingly enough, this is my core contention against contemporary art. Pretty images/visuals, etc have become the standard for "good" art in fiction, poetry, music and film. Right now I'm in the process of writing a satirical short story to point out how absurd and shallow contemporary imagism (as it exists today) is.

I'm with you - pretty images and cool colors don't replace a great story with interesting characters. And I'd much rather see Zac in the latter than in the former.
Miranda gives everyone a chancemirandagirll on May 7th, 2013 03:35 pm (UTC)
At this point, some movement is better than no movement. And I'm glad this is one of his project that seems to have some movement. Bur can someone jog my memory about what "high octane action movie" is? I know the story for DIAG but I'm not sure what type of movie it'll be besides action?

Bee: Zac – Interview - looking down 1jeezbee on May 7th, 2013 05:55 pm (UTC)
In my opinion, it's not an action movie. Technically, it's a romantic drama. Just not as sappy as eg Sparks (although it does have its fair share of clichés). It's a bit darker, more violent and has a few scenes with light action elements but nothing which would cause me to call it an action movie at all. It doesn't even have a single set piece iirc. I guess it just sounds cooler to call it an romantic actioner since romantic drama has such a bad image.
kleth on May 7th, 2013 08:27 pm (UTC)
Maybe Production Weekly's source knows something about a re-write that is intended to turn this project into a "high-octane action" movie. Otherwise, why would they describe it so?
Beejeezbee on May 7th, 2013 09:28 pm (UTC)
They always tried to position this script as action-y, right from the beginning. And from what I know about Production Weekly and how/what info they get, I don't think they would have insight into this. They just take info from synopsis' and agency summaries etc.

And why they would describe it that way? As I said because I suspect it sounds cooler and more exciting.