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Jul 18th
07:34 pm
misc. upcomings and goings  
Jeff Wells recently posted about Liberal Arts wondering why there hasn't been any publicity or website given it is coming out in two months and suggested the distributor, IFC, wasn't that keen on it.

IFC responded with:
Update: IFC Films bigwig Ryan Werner says "everything is coming momentarily on Liberal Arts. We've been working with Josh this summer on the materials, etc. And we just did a NYC screening and party at BAM Cinemafest and the film played huge. We remain super enthusiastic."

So that's good news. I can't wait :)

In less positive news, I'm a little concerned about This is Where I Leave You. Last we saw, Adam was scouting locations a month ago. In the meantime though, Rock of Ages underwhelmed both financially and critically. And Jason Bateman tweeted on July 10th that filming of Arrested Development "starts in four weeks" which to me indicates he'll be busy filming that in the fall, overlapping the intended filming period for TIWILY. Further Adam has said nothing and responds to no questions about the project, which is unusual for him, and I haven't seen any production info popping up on any of the databases. So it seems like something fell apart somewhere along the way. I have mixed feelings if this did happen. My main reservation has always been Adam. I love Adam for Hairspray and supporting Zac but his track record otherwise as a director is pretty dim. Otherwise though, I liked the cast, the book, and Zac's character. I liked that it was comedy more than romance for him. And Zac could definitely use a studio project. I guess hopefully it was just pushed back a bit. But I really can't wait for Zac to get back to real work, not just promo. So whatever is happening, I hope he gets back on set soon.

In better news, we should hear next week if At Any Price made it into Venice and TIFF. Fingers crossed. I'm also curious if The Paperboy might screen at TIFF. As a side note, in the upcoming weeks, Liberal Arts will screen at the Traverse City Film Festival, the Melbourne International Film Festival and the New Zealand 2012 International Film Festival.
 
 
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Miranda gives everyone a chancemirandagirll on July 19th, 2012 02:02 am (UTC)
"he hasn't filmed anything for almost a year now"

But isn't that how TLO came about? He filmed CSC then basically went a year without filming anything then filmed TLO. I don't think we want a repeat of TLO. As much as I did personally enjoy the movie, I can see that we probably don't want a repeat of TLO/NYE.
Beejeezbee on July 19th, 2012 02:08 am (UTC)
Well, at some point he needs to film something new unless you want him to wait another year.

Said that, the situation is different now since he just opened a movie and got decent reviews for Liberal Arts and even The Paperboy. And I did say, I don't want him to take an awful project but at some point he needs to jump. There are obviously awful projects like TLO (I wouldn't want him to do a rom-com now either - studio or indie) but I think he should be able to do an interesting small indie if he's waiting for a better studio project.

Edited at 2012-07-19 02:13 am (UTC)
Miranda gives everyone a chancemirandagirll on July 19th, 2012 02:15 am (UTC)
Obviously not wait another year, but like a few more weeks won't hurt imo. That is true that the situation is different, and he does need to jump on some type of project. But at the same time, I'd rather see him film movies he believes in and are good versus him filming anything he's offered/auditions of/ etc. Like he did really good with finding Liberal Arts, The Paperboy, and At Any Price, so if we (or Zac) has to wait a while for more movies like that then I can wait (Zac probably can too even though he probably would rather be working).

(I'm sorry. I didn't see your edited reply until after I posted this)

Edited at 2012-07-19 02:17 am (UTC)
Beejeezbee on July 19th, 2012 02:26 am (UTC)
I think you're reading my original comment a bit too literal.

I'm not saying he should announce something ~right now~ just that he needs to make a move soon. Esp since new projects normally have several months lead time until they actually start shooting.

I guess I was hoping that his agent would have found him something in late 2011 to film this spring/summer so he wouldn't run into the situation again that the clock is ticking.
The Writers Denmusewriter on July 19th, 2012 02:52 am (UTC)
I have a legitimate question...it's the agents who are on the lookout for potential projects and getting the clients auditions, right? I'd imagine Zac is a sought after actor (not as sought after as some of course), but I don't buy that a good number of scripts don't come across his agents desk. I get the strategy of being selective so you don't end up doing questionable projects that suck, but it seems that this waiting a year between projects has been standard for Zac and Co. CSC in 2009, TLO in 2010 and then we had the influx of projects in 2011. Here we are mid 2012 and he's yet to film anything new and as far as we know none of the movies he's producing are happening soon. I'd guess at some point the 'wait for something great to come along' approach becomes counterproductive, especially for someone who's still fighting to be seen as a serious actor, yes?
annabelle83 on July 19th, 2012 02:59 am (UTC)
I think Zac is in awkward place in Hollywood. He's too big of a star for big movies for which studios want fresh actors, yet he's not big enough for studios to greenlight movies based on his name.

Plus, if Lee Daniels, who is well known for his daring casting choices, was hesitant to cast Zac because of his Disney past, I can't imagine other directors willing to hire him. :/

Edited at 2012-07-19 03:01 am (UTC)
Beejeezbee on July 19th, 2012 03:08 am (UTC)
Yes, it's the agent's job to find projects and then also to sell their client to the producers/directors (either before or after an audition). Sometimes managers also get involved if they have contacts etc but their job is more long-term strategy and overall management of the career vs "finding that role" (even if they sometimes do).

I've been bitching about that gap between filming CStC an TLO a lot and I think his people screwed that up big time. (The gap between filming HSM3 and CStC is a bit an exception because hardly anything was filming for like 6 months due to a pending SAG strike).

And I agree with your comment that at some point the waiting becomes counterproductive in his stage of his career, esp if you don't have anything "safe" like a franchise to fall back on.

It's not as dire as it has been before filming TLO but he has no studio project coming up with any specific dates to give him a wide exposure right now and if he doesn't announce/film anything soon, he might not have a project coming out in 2013. Which is a bit frustrating if you consider he just opened a movie by himself.
The Writers Denmusewriter on July 19th, 2012 03:36 am (UTC)
Thanks for answering, Bee:). I've often thought I was the only one who thought this 'wait and see' approach they seem to be on was a bit counterproductive, glad to know I'm not alone. I do wonder if a shakeup in his team would ever bode well for him. It's not my place to say whether he should or shouldn't switch agents/managers or whatever, but I have to wonder if it would change his career trajectory at all. Obviously he gets the final say in his career and maybe he's happy to wait so long between projects. It just seems that if he wants to stay relevant and be taken seriously, he needs to film, have projects lined up, and show his face at a decent number of events, etc.
Bee: Zac – InStyle - Jean Jacketjeezbee on July 19th, 2012 12:52 pm (UTC)
Obviously we don't know exactly what's going on behind closed doors and of course it's sort of a team effort but I can't say I'm impressed with his agent. Things might have fallen apart in the past etc but in the end it only counts what actually happened. TLO and NYE right after CStC seemed really bad choices and if you read movie blogs regularly, this sentiment was basically echoed by people who write about movies for a living, so it's not only some of us fans.

Many of his projects seem to have come from Zac's own connections or where we know the producers/directors approached Zac (and his agent basically only had to "pick up the phone"), so I really wonder how much Mick is doing for him. A good agent goes out of his way for his clients - that's a feeling I never got in his case. Idk how good Jason is but considering Zac and him have even a company together, I doubt a change is happening here soon. It's not helping that there are basically only 2 talent agencies in town nowadays... if he leaves CAA, WME would be the only realistic alternative. The one advantage of changing agencies would be that they normally really put some real effort in after they sign you up. At that point they still feel the need to prove they are good and the change was justified.

It's obviously all a balancing act between waiting for a better opportunity and pulling the trigger on a new project but I do feel that he might have been better served in the past if he filmed a tiny bit more. Not only to stay relevant but even just to learn and get better. As Zac is often pointing out during interviews, he's learning with every movie and from his co-stars... but if you don't film anything, you're not getting better either (although I surely hope he's taking acting classes etc while he's not filming). Decent studio projects are rare and I totally understand that his image/pedigree is not favorable for him getting these but I can't help thinking that there had to be the one or other interesting indie he could have done in the past.

Another aspect is also that agents obviously work most for the clients which make them the most money which is also sort of a chicken and egg problem. The more Zac films (and hence makes money), the more CAA will make off him and in return will put effort in to get him even more. Of course that's balanced with doing small projects for long-term success but it's no surprise that agents seem to work the hardest for clients who do blockbusters since those are the projects which pay the most.

In the end, we have to hope for the best but of course that doesn't change the fact that I'm frustrated if things don't go smoothly.
kleth on July 19th, 2012 04:11 pm (UTC)
"I surely hope he's taking acting classes etc while he's not filming"

I don't recall any reference to him doing anything like classes or training when he has down time (except for the Audi driving school). He's always been on the "earn while you learn" track, which is why I agree with what you said about learning, he needs to be working in order to get better.

If not formal acting, he should at least be taking things like tap or ballet, and piano or guitar, things that will give him particular skills. He seems to be good at a lot of things, but not great at any one thing.
Beejeezbee on July 19th, 2012 11:18 pm (UTC)
Most actors don't talk about acting classes even if they do take them. So idk. He might, he might not but I don't take him not talking about it as evidence that it doesn't happen.
kleth on July 19th, 2012 04:17 pm (UTC)
"Idk how good Jason is"

I was impressed when Josh R. said that both Zac and his manager were enthusiastic about doing Liberal Arts. I would have expected an adviser to dismiss a tiny part like this, so clearly the manager is thinking about more than credit above the title or money.
(no subject) - jeezbee on July 19th, 2012 11:19 pm (UTC) (Expand)
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on July 19th, 2012 05:57 pm (UTC)
how, by the way, does mick get good roles for sam claflin and not for zac. i don't fucking get it. jesus christ.
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Sapphirasapphia on July 19th, 2012 09:33 am (UTC)
Thanks for answering, Bee :). Your reasonings are always interesting to me.
It is a pity that so far we have no reason to rejoice...
Beejeezbee on July 19th, 2012 11:20 pm (UTC)
You're welcome. :)