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May 29th
01:48 pm
Comments on The Lucky One Screening  
On top of just being very busy dealing with life, it's taken me awhile to synthesize the info I've gotten on the screening of The Lucky One that happened a couple Wednesdays ago.

One person who went was pretty meh on the whole thing (did not hate it but was underwhelmed). Another liked it (and liked it better than the book) but had some issues. And then there are the glowing (sometimes questionable tbh) reports from Twitter and elsewhere.

So... idk, I did my best to try and find the middle-ground and incorporate both the positive and negative things I've heard. Hopefully this gives us a well-rounded idea of what to expect.

And if you are wondering, there are SPOILERS here, but if you've read the book, not much is that spoilerish.

Things to get out of the way...

As Mike O'Donnell would say, ~Making Love~ scenes

There were basically three scenes, all differing from the book, and most thought they were good and hot. One is kind of a shower scene in an outbuilding thingee (idk he's cleaning up and she attacks him, lol), a montage following the shower scene and then a later second montage. I don't know if I think it is necessary to go into more details than that. I can add he apparently has another tattoo and has skillz at removing bras one-handed. See 'Dat Ass' for coverage of that side of things. Oh there is also one almost-sex-scene where Logan basically gets to third base on a chair in the attic.

A lot of people agree it seemed more R-rated than PG-13. So don't be surprised if they cut out some of this stuff to achieve a PG-13.

Dat Ass

Plenty of ass through wet clothes shots (well maybe not enough for some people who are just waiting for his porn film). In the love scenes his ass makes a half-moon appearance (his underwear pulled down a bit) and it also appears in the montage that follows.

One person (who shall remain nameless to protect their idk what, certainly not innocence, lol) said, "It is glorious." They said it in all caps. I feel a bit pervy writing it that way, especially knowing how many people are so overly interested in this aspect of the film. But there you have it.

And while I wish that his ass wasn't going to be the focus of the film, I know exactly what people, specifically ONTD, will want and I'm prepared to make gifs.

p.s. as promised:



Dat Body

As a continuation of 'Dat Ass'... I know a number of people were uncomfortable and/or worried about the weight gain. But it really benefits his ass so was well-worth it.

And on top of that, it really looks okay on film apparently. It does not come off as he hit the Twinkies too hard. It's all muscle. To quote, "His stomach is still flat as a board - that's obvious when he's shirtless/in boxer briefs and when he's lifting... He really got into amazing shape."

Basically he looks like a Marine, actually bigger than some of the other "Marines" I guess even, so maybe gaining sooo much weight wasn't necessary. But at least it sounds like it does him no harm. And his look makes him more accessible... not less handsome exactly but just more rugged. Guys will not find him so "pretty" which at this point in the game is a good change-up for his image I think.

Dem Arms

Look great. He is clearly very strong, and lifts Beth with one hand in a couple scenes and "you can tell if he hit someone it would hurt them." This is a far cry from the lulz quote Brittany Snow gave about him dropping her a few times during Hairspray filming, when he was not quite so strong.

Beth can't help but ogle his arms in one scene, much to the amusement of her mom.

Moving on...

Zac

Zac I was really confused on, based on feedback I got.

On the one hand, he was described as stone-faced and monosyllabic. But that is what Logan is in the book. So he is doing his character.

But I also wonder if this won't end up a bit like the critics who felt he was just vacuously staring a lot in Charlie St. Cloud and unable to hold the weight of the film with just his face. This is something I personally did not agree with when I saw CStC where, yes he was staring, but it wasn't empty... there were things going on in his head and I could tell.

Actually critics also mentioned something like this regarding Me and Orson Welles. In MAOW it was an issue. At this point, it was partially Zac's inexperience and partially the fault of the written character (as it is in TLO). But since I saw growth to CStC where I felt he "stared" better, I am hoping I see even more growth and feel the same about TLO.

I was encouraged though by other people who felt he wasn't stone-faced. He is quiet and reserved as his character is passive more than active, but he's always present. And he is definitely cute with the dogs and Ben.

Overall Zac does well, works it as a Marine and protector. It is a departure from previous roles and doesn't cross over. He gets to be more romantic and more of a seducer. And of course he gets to carry a weapon. His acting doesn't feel forced and he once again abandons Zac-isms for his character (minus one noted little move when he's playing with Ben). This is a step I felt he first achieved with CStC and I am glad to hear he continues this progress in his growth as an actor.

There are other people in this movie?

In general the casting for the movie was good, good chemistry, etc.

Blythe is to be loved and is precious. She provides much of the humor and is in it more than Kim was in CStC but still not enough.

Riley, as Ben, has good chemistry with Taylor and with Zac. The scenes with Zac are very sweet.

Zeus has fewer scenes than in the book. In general though Zac works really well with all the dogs and, like the scenes with Ben, these are very cute too.

Taylor is beautiful and has a beautiful wardrobe. She also makes Beth more likeable than the book Beth. There are mixed opinions on how old she comes off as and whether it works against Zac who some felt looked his stated 25 and others felt looked too young.

One felt Taylor was very good and holds her role down well, which is necessary cause her storyline is kind of the center of the film. Another felt that she was okay but was sometimes inconsistent or flat. Her chemistry was pretty good with Zac though.

Jay as Keith was a good asshole. He and Zac have a convincing rivalry.

The Not-so-Good

These things were noted pretty much across the board as weak.

War Scenes: Poorly set-up and edited. Confusing with the dimness and the strobe-like gunfire. One person jokingly said, "I didn't know if they were in a club or Iraq." VERY ineffective. (Oh and p.s. Robert "I love to Twitter" Hayes is in the film for probably <60 secs, so....... yeah.)

Death Scene: Lame and rushed! Just as badly rushed as Tess' wrap-up in CStC. Definitely a change-for-the-worse from the book version (and imo, that was already pretty bad and rushed).

There are also a few cheesy and cringe-worthy lines.

The above really, really sound like they need to be fixed with reshoots or ADR.

Other less-fixable issues...

Logan is a bit empty. As I mentioned above, under 'Zac', he is an observer mostly. That is how he was in the book and how he is in the movie and it is still problematic. He plays the observer better here than he did when he was younger (i.e. the aforementioned MAOW) but he also doesn't really have that much to do that's DEEP and so can't really pop. This by no means makes him bad in the role, but will probably generate some criticism in the press.

Side note: I am actually worried about this in The Paperboy as well, where Jack as a character is noted in book reviews (and in my own reading so far) as more of a passive storyteller. He is active at times, but often is just the fly on the wall and this is Zac's weakest (but always improving) skill. I think the people he's worked with or will make the roles worth it still, but I would like to see Zac in more active roles and hopefully his role in the Bahrani film fills that description.

They actually do deal a bit with his PTSD in the film (hooray!) but you are still really left in the dark about it. Obviously he was in the war and exhibits some PTSD symptoms when he returns to his sister's house to pick up Zeus, but it isn't set up well and it isn't explored enough. Basically they don't really address the PTSD or whether he gets help for it after he leaves his sister's. He still clearly gets frustrated or anxious but it's just there and undeveloped.

One last thing, the piano is made to seem significant but never really goes anywhere. And there is NO piano seksi tiems which personally I am VERY disappointed in, lol.

One Fav Bit to End With

There is a scene I guess where Beth is complaining about Logan to her mom, not knowing that he is in the room hearing her. He's chill about that though when she realizes he's there, but then they discuss him not being in school and she's kind of giving him a hard time about only going to college for one year. He says though that he likes philosophy and she challenges him to quote something. So he does. She is convinced it is Voltaire. But he's like "LOL, it's Dr. Seuss."
 
 
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Lindsie Lewinsky: lilo goofylindsiie on May 29th, 2011 07:58 pm (UTC)
thanks for posting!

i miss zac candids though :( what is he doing??
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on May 29th, 2011 08:01 pm (UTC)
From the few twitters we've seen, it sounds like he's been spending time with his family in the Bay Area and back at home in Arroyo Grande. I miss him too, but I'm really glad he's had some time to recharge with them.
i like my jeans skinny and my skirts high-waistedsurferxchris on May 29th, 2011 08:00 pm (UTC)
But it really benefits his ass so was well-worth it.

Lmao. I'm crying.
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on May 29th, 2011 08:03 pm (UTC)
His dedication to his character in this aspect will be highly appreciated. I can't wait to see ONTD's reaction.
redundancy is not elaborationthelightisdim on May 29th, 2011 08:10 pm (UTC)
Robert "I love to Twitter" Hayes doesn't even have a minute on screen? LMAO

I can't see this movie getting good reviews. Like, saying that it is one of the best Sparks novels/better that CstC doesn't really mean much. What I do think that can happen is that critics will see his progression as an actor despite of the role/movie... of course this won't happen with everyone and there is still a lot of prejudice but I'm hopeful.

I think that with the staring/passive character issue, depending on the edition, this won't be much of a problem... this seems to be a default for every male NS character and there isn't much Zac could have done about it. At least I'm sure he will do this better than Liam and Channing.

I can understand your worry about The Paperboy but I think they won't leave everything on Zac's shoulders like in CstC and TLO so maybe this won't be an issue. And given the director/actors he will be working with I think he will do much better.
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on May 29th, 2011 08:18 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I always hope the critics see past the film to see him. And that's where even in CStC I do think he was great and enough people are seeing that to give him more respect.

For my concerns about The Paperboy (and even what I felt about MAOW) I do think any risk of playing too passive a character is well worth it just to get to work with those people. So overall I'm very excited for it and for him. If only they'd make the casting clear for Matt an Tobey cause that is still confusing but soon enough, lol.

zettaiyozettaiyo on May 29th, 2011 08:13 pm (UTC)
I actually liked the war scene but I do agree about what people said about the set up and edit. I think it was just really different for Zac and that's the reason I liked that scene.

I agree with what your reviewers said for the most part. The thing that bugged me was the way he walked and he walked a lot in this movie. It just seemed really stiff and for some reason just didn't look natural on screen. But that's probably just me.
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on May 29th, 2011 09:03 pm (UTC)
It being different is why I was looking forward to the war scenes maybe most of all, but I hope they can clean it up and make it not so soundstage looking as it sounds.

From the beginning I was concerned about them shooting Louisiana for Iraq (or Afghanistan as it sometimes switched to). Because Louisiana just isn't like those places at all. And it sounds like it limited their angles and so the scene suffers for it.

Since I'm sure they did it to save relocating crew and everyone then, if they did reshoots now (since they have some time) maybe they could just do them out near Death Valley where Hollywood has shot other Middle East scenes. They'd have to reassemble a crew anyway, so might as well.

IDK, I'm probably dreaming too big here, lol. (eta:) Though it does sound like they could fix a lot of problems (at least in the war scenes) without even needing Zac. The treehouse is maybe a different story.

As for the walking. From another perspective, like yes his walk is different, but it seems like it is a character thing. Like he's used to holding himself differently, more formally because he's been in the Marines for so long and now he's trying to adjust to being more normal and relaxed again so it is purposefully stilted.

Edited at 2011-05-29 09:08 pm (UTC)
xdecemberskiesxdecemberskies on May 30th, 2011 08:39 am (UTC)
Reckon he's gonna have to do reshoots like with CSC?
MirandaZanessaFan2010 on May 29th, 2011 08:24 pm (UTC)
From what you described, it sounds like, atleast, Zac tried to stay true to the book which is what most Nicholas Sparks (people who would most likely see the movie) wanted. I'm excited regardless. I'm glad to hear that Zac is a convincing marine.

One question, what does ONTD mean?
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on May 29th, 2011 08:28 pm (UTC)
it's a livejournal community - ohnotheydidnt - about celeb news, pop culture and gossip. i post zac stuff there.
butterflybee260: eyebrowsbutterflybee260 on May 29th, 2011 08:56 pm (UTC)

I am personally extremely excited about all the ~dat ass~ moments. :D

You know his staring face did really improve from MAOW to CSC, it was the biggest thing that bugged me in MAOW and although he still did his constipated/sexy face in CSC at times it was there a lot less. Hopefully it's disappeared even more though someone who went did mention the appearance of it once or twice to me.

I don't think this movie was ever meant to be really anything above decent. It's obviously a filler role at this point in his career and if I get to see that he's grown some in his acting abilities then I'll be satisfied. It is what it is and I'll deal with the good and bad I guess.
Bee: Zac – CStC - leaving cottage - candlejeezbee on May 29th, 2011 09:46 pm (UTC)
I'm glad that most people who like Sparks movies seem to have liked this one because I hope it means it'll translate into decent enough boxoffice to not hurt Zac esp since none of his co-stars can help him sell the movie.

As for the film, I'm sure there are cute scenes, some of the elements are new and a development for him and his transformation will show again his commitment to his work but it also sounds like overall there is a good chance for it be panned by critics since they focus less on DAT ASS and more on overall story development and characters. On the positive side, at least it won't be as depressive and confusing as CStC which hurt that movie quite a bit. Also, hopefully him romancing a divorcee with an 8-year-old kid will appeal to audiences older than his core demo of teens.

The comments about Logan hint at what I've been afraid of from the beginning though - that the movie version of Logan is just as boring and 1-dimensional as the book version. This is probably good for the book lovers since it stays true to that but unfortunately critics don't give a damn about this and it'll impact his reviews negatively. :/ Which is one of the reasons (next to others) why I disliked the idea of TLO... because Sparks can't write any interesting, multi-dimensional characters which gives actors enough material to work with. But thankfully the new movies he's planning to film this summer sound like he's working with better material now (desite the passiveness of Jack), so this will hopefully make up for Logan's shallowness.
annabelle83 on May 30th, 2011 10:03 am (UTC)
So excited about DAT ASS and his bra-removing skills. They better not edit them out in the theatrical version. I was very disappointed with quadruple space scenes in MaOW and CSC. Can't wait to see Zac in action!

The audience at the screening seem to like the movie and Zac, and judging from their comments everything is exactly what I wanted/expected: an adult romance for older audience, Zac's maturest role to date, and improved adaptation from the book. Nice!
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hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on May 30th, 2011 05:12 pm (UTC)
How is that a bitchy or hateful question? Unless you want to implicate something hateful or you want to manipulate the answers you get to serve some really twisted mentality you have about Zac.

If he is hurt and lost, then I'm glad he's with his family and they are there for him. He's lucky he is close to them, physically and emotionally.

Stating the obvious here but families, good families, generally enjoy each others company and want to be around each other. They also help each other recharge and are there for each other. And for Zac, who is so often treated as an object, a commodity, or a game, it probably is nice to be treated as a human being again and to escape to a place where people aren't wanting something from him constantly or looking for him at every turn. It's a nice break from LA.

That said though, there are a lot of reasons he might go home. It might be the other way around, his family might need him. Or maybe he knows he's going to be busy the rest of the summer filming so he wants to spend time with them before he takes off. Or since it's a holiday weekend, maybe he just wants some BBQ and good times?

Edited at 2011-05-30 05:15 pm (UTC)
It's Audrey not Aubreyaudrey_za on May 30th, 2011 08:02 pm (UTC)
Moving past your "disclaimer", there's a host of reasons for him to venture home. No one here is privy to specifics as to why, save for the obvious which is they are his blood relatives.
It's Audrey not Aubrey: B Coopaudrey_za on May 30th, 2011 11:50 pm (UTC)
Oh! So I am (prematurely) EXCITE at the prospect of promo in the form of a joint editorial (I'm thinking the likes of Glamour, Marie Claire, maybe ELLE, etc) spread.

Zac hasn't partaken in that type of shoot since the September '08 issue of ELLE (I don't count Interview, as Edita is a model, not an onscreen co-star). I think a shoot ala Bradley Cooper/Abbie Cornish for Marie Claire could be fun!
Gillian loves lemoñadé.invisible_cunt on May 31st, 2011 01:46 am (UTC)
oh geez i'm going to need to bring a change of underwear to this movie then
elements_fade on May 31st, 2011 05:33 am (UTC)
Oh god this movie if anything will be a gift from god to all of us Zac fangirls/fanboys.

I also on a legit level can't wait to see Zac's progression as an actor. He gets better and better in each role.
elements_fade on May 31st, 2011 05:34 am (UTC)
AND LOL @ THAT ROB HAYES GUY WHO KEEPS HYPING HIMSELF UP ON TWITTER. I CAN'T.