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Sep 6th
08:20 am
a couple more wonderland shots  
randomly from twitter:

i'm still too asleep to fully comprehend this or to react to it...
Mood: sleepysleepy
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Beejeezbee on September 6th, 2010 02:28 pm (UTC)
The first one is the best out of the entire bunch so far (imo) but it's not great by any means. And while he's certainly photoshopped there too, it's not as obvious.

That second shot though.... jeez. What was he and the photographer thinking????? It looks like he's posing for a pin-up calendar.

(Side question... isn't Wonderland supposed to be a fashion magazine? Why on earth is he just wearing boring muscle shirts then?????? So many questions, so little sense...)

Edited at 2010-09-06 02:31 pm (UTC)
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hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on September 6th, 2010 02:33 pm (UTC)
i just hope they are the designer kind that cost $42/each.
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Beejeezbee on September 6th, 2010 03:45 pm (UTC)
We should open an office pool about the # of comment about his armpit hair. It's going to be lulz.
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Beejeezbee on September 6th, 2010 04:43 pm (UTC)
Even crazier is when people go "shave those armpits." I'm like WUT? Perhaps I've missed that trend but I'm not aware that guys normally do that.
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Beejeezbee on September 6th, 2010 05:05 pm (UTC)
I like when my men take care of themselves but there are still different grooming expectations between the sexes, fair or not.

The only area where I'm ewww about is the back, I prefer that taken care of.
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on September 6th, 2010 02:34 pm (UTC)
the pose is too much. i can't even...
Beejeezbee on September 6th, 2010 02:38 pm (UTC)
ik, I can't even believe he would pose like that. How can he not know how ridiculous and cheap it looks.

I think it's time for him to learn to say 'no' to a photographer OR buy common sense.

Edited at 2010-09-06 02:43 pm (UTC)
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on September 6th, 2010 02:48 pm (UTC)
he needs common sense plus learning how to say no, lol. even when he had common sense he couldn't say no.

eta: irony is he probably lost the common sense by not knowing how to say no to people.

Edited at 2010-09-06 03:37 pm (UTC)
Beejeezbee on September 6th, 2010 03:43 pm (UTC)
I feel like he's getting too passive in all of this and let people run over him (obviously I have no evidence at all, it's just a gut feeling). He needs to take things in his own hands, be more assertive and make (sometimes tough) decisions. In many things he seems very driven and knows what he wants but then it's like he's not following through and just let things happen like he doesn't care.
Shruti: Zac | Thinkercalcified on September 6th, 2010 05:20 pm (UTC)
It's strange you mention this. I would agree but maybe it's the Fashion Magazine Photographer who is intimidating? Since I remembered this from his Chicago portrait: 11:24 a.m. - We move back to the couch. I try a profile of him looking out window, but it doesn't work. Cliche. Annoying. Hotel rooms. Ugh. At this point, due to the situation of thinking on the fly, I'm drenched in sweat. I suggest he lay down (what fan of his wouldn't want to see him lying down) but he calls the idea of him laying on the couch with his arms behind his back, "cheesy." Ok, maybe it was. I still hope to get a picture from above, but they all react negatively when I suggest standing on the wood edge of a glass coffee table.

Edited at 2010-09-06 05:20 pm (UTC)
Beejeezbee on September 6th, 2010 08:00 pm (UTC)
But perhaps he felt comfortable saying no in that situation because he felt he's "experienced/knowledgable" enough about those type of shoots to allow himself an opinion because he's done so many of them and it's just a "small staff photographer" after all?

This shoot however, is with a "big" photographer, so yeah, he probably felt intimitated. Because it was a high profile fashion photographer who is supposed to know everything better than Zac. But I'm not sure it's the specific photographer per sé but rather the type of shoot. Where Zac probably thinks he doesn't know enough to object to anything and just goes along with it.

Just like Burr said in Details, he's so concerned with pleasing people around him that he forgets about himself/the most important thing. When your ass is on the line, it doesn't matter if the photographer is more experienced - ridiculous things are ridiculous and he should say so. He's not there to make friends with the photographer.

So, I think he's at a point where he sometimes needs to put his foot down even though he might not be the most knowledgable person about something. Of course he should still listen to other (more experienced) peoples opinion but he also needs to challenge them, even if he's the rookie. He doesn't (and shouldn't) be a total asshole about it but just doing whatever people tell him, won't cut it longterm.

It applies to this shoot, other PR movies but also which movies to do. Who told him to do TLO eg? Did he really want that and thought it was a good idea? Footloose showed that going against everyone else, was a good thing which everyone in the biz applauded and it turned out to be a respected move. I'm curious if TLO was his decison or someone else?

Edited at 2010-09-06 08:02 pm (UTC)