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Jul 29th
07:14 am
Jimmy Kimmel last night  


 
 
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Beejeezbee on July 29th, 2010 01:40 pm (UTC)
This feels like the appearance which is supposed to make it ok for guys to go along with their girlfriends to watch the movie.

Talking about the strip club, manly camping and then the clip of him punching a guy in a bar (which is a clip not included normally in their promo material).

Almost (very?) calculated.
hlloyd04 on July 29th, 2010 01:43 pm (UTC)
ITA. I left a long-winded comment at the end of the last post, but this sums everything up pretty nicely.
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on July 29th, 2010 02:10 pm (UTC)
my problem though still is i think universal is stupid if they are trying to push this strip club thing to define his masculinity when they've been establishing the religious/mom blog assets so heavily. though universal isn't really that smart so idk.

whatever.

as i replied to hlloyd04's comment in the other post, he's just veering dangerously close to flat out hypocritical douche to claim he's boring/above these types of shenanigans then do this/other things... even if he is extremely charming in explaining the discrepancies (as ontd thinks).

also hypocritical... i want to do good movies/be like leo then doing cstc and worse then doing nicholas sparks even after seeing how people are responding to cstc (critically). i hope they see these are miscalculations. or maybe we just know too much or maybe they don't give a shit what we think, idk. it's early and i'm hungry and not caffeinated so thinking is not my strong suit right now.

we all love zac and we think he deserves good projects and we know he can do them. i think we all also know he's a really sweet and smart guy for the most part but the hypocrisy, to me right now, is srsly grating. especially cause i feel like we know that who he really is, is so much better (warts and all even) than this image he is putting out there right now.

i'm going to quote shrewtee and hopefully she won't care because i think what she said is really on point even if she said it to me privately

"When you purposefully put yourself out there as a douche/less than you are - aka doing shitty movies willfully (for your fans?! who are you, Selena Gomez) and .....whatever this whole thing is... he was presenting himself as ~cool~ in a way that is absolutely not cool, but more importantly, he was trying to sell himself as less than he is. I get incredibly frustrated when a guy I legitimately love 95% of the time spends 5% of his time putting that IMAGE of himself out there to the world. I don't think it's helping the way his team wants. It just makes him look calculating in a ploddingly stupid way to the people who care. I was already pretty over the edge with the bad movie choices because what in the actual fuck, he has so much potential and I CANNOT believe no one believes in him to do a better transitional project (does he really need another one?). There's just something wrong in his methodology."
Beejeezbee on July 29th, 2010 02:51 pm (UTC)
I don't have much to say because as usual I agree mostly with you and Shrewtee.

my problem though still is i think universal is stupid if they are trying to push this strip club thing to define his masculinity when they've been establishing the religious/mom blog assets so heavily. though universal isn't really that smart so idk.

I think one of the idea behind it might have been just plain exposure in publications/places which normally don't cover him/the movie. As you know from the tracking data yourself, awareness is lacking - which is no surprise since Uni has done zero marketing leading up to the movie and only started pushing like 4 weeks ago. Which is just too late.

With this stupid story, he'll get coverage at many places and attention from people who normally wouldn't. It feels like an desperate attempt of "there is no bad publicity" but like you said, I'm not sure it's helping the movie. And his Jimmy Kimmel appearance while very charming was also downright smarmy.

I think I'm not quite annoyed to the same degree about his hypocrisy (which is clearly there and rising) as you but I see myself sighing and rolling my eyes more and more too.

I could have taken his saying this (to sell this movie) and then doing other stuff (like what he has in dev) ok if he hadn't signed up for the Sparks thing. That really completely disappointed me and makes me question his transition strategy. Because doing that after CStC is so outright stupid, I can't believe he doesn't see it. Signing up for that like a minute after he said to a reporter "I'm searching and waiting. The opportunities will come," he says. "I'm not in any rush." just boggles my mind. Because if he really thinks this is the right opportunity, then I have little hope for him developing a career anywhere near the one he says he wants. And I'm just sad about that.

In short, I think we basically agree (no surprise here), even though we might be in different stages about the various details.
i like my jeans skinny and my skirts high-waistedsurferxchris on July 29th, 2010 03:38 pm (UTC)
Thanks for saying all the things I was too tired to articulate.