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Oct 4th
10:59 pm
Ccmskatechick's Woodstock Film Festival Experience  
Here is Kerry's story guys. SO MUCH THANKS to her for taking the time (especially after a long adventure-filled weekend) to stay up and type this out for us.

She suggested PMing for questions but if you want to post the questions in comments it is fine with me, but for any thing spoilerish in either Q or A, please enclose it in a white font tag for highlighting purposes. It is pretty straightforward to do, even if you've never tried this... just copy/paste this into the comment box:

<font color="white">PUT YOUR SPOILERS HERE</font>

And edit in your thoughts. (I'd double-check your success with preview too).

Anyway, without further adieu:

As we've all know, this movie has been hyped up for a long time now. It's been a year since it debuted at Toronto and we're finally able to see the light at the end of the tunnel. When they initially announced earlier this summer that the film was going to show at the festival in Woodstock, I knew I had to go. This was before we had the good news on national distribution. I wasn't going to give up the opportunity to see this with the festival being a stone's throw away (about 1hr 30min from me).

I got up to the village early on Friday to wander around to try to get the vibe of what was going on, see if I could hear any early buzz, meet some people. I'm glad I did. While I was grabbing dinner at the Landau Grill (I was told to try there, always a great place for food and to run into anyone whose anyone from the festival - I never got the whole story but somehow it *is* connected to Martin Landau) - met a lovely couple who had happened to work the 'festival circuit' in the business and found out a little bit more on how films get chosen for festivals, the bidding process on distribution, etc. (They were also the ones that tipped me off to the MAOW poster for US Distribution not what has been out there, it's being finalized/finished). The festival organizers recommended getting to the 'theater' (it was an old one room schoolhouse they converted to a very small, intimate theater - 10 rows, 100 seats if that) at least 30 minutes before the showing, even if you had tickets. When I got there at 6:30, I was already the 10th person online. Also I was by far leaps and bounds the youngest person online (I really ended up being one of the youngest there, right before the screening started a young woman about my age snuck in). The screening had been sold out since the initial day that ticket sales launched so I knew it was going to be an interesting scene. I was able to get in and snag a 4th row dead center seat. I was like a little kid in a candy store waiting for the movie to start. And once it did, I was just really in awe. I didn't look at my watch once. I was completely immersed in the movie.

After the movie, Linklater was there to do a panel/roundtable with the executive director of the festival, along with the author of the book and one of his executive producers/bffs. They discussed how they came to film on the Isle of Man, how they selected McKay for Orson, Richard’s filmmaking process from optioning the script to filming to distribution, the ‘real’ story behind the inspiration of the character of Richard and Linklater did touch a little bit on Zac – the craziness that followed him to the Isle of Man (he said he never heard such sounds as the 300+ screaming 9-12 year old girls that were constantly waiting after filming for him) & about the selection of Zac for the role (how he met with Zac and how Z loved the script right off from the beginning)

I don't want to give away the whole movie and do a blow by blow since most likely every single one of you will be going out to see this and I really do not want to ruin the experience (and I don't know everyone's opinion on spoilers - if you have specific questions on specific scenes feel free to PM me and I'll do my best to answer them) - but holy.fucking.hell. First thing I tweeted was "no words" - and really, after the film ended and the credits started to roll (which oh my god - I cannot wait to get stills from what they did on that) I was completely blown away. Expectations were met and exceeded, at least for me. I had hoped that it would be a good movie and that everything that's been said thus far would hold true. McKay as Orson was just stunning. It's really some of the best acting I've seen as of late. The way he captures Orson was fantastic. You could see how his theater training was the perfect preface for this film. I think the Oscar committee would be inept if they don't take his role in this movie into consideration.

Now, for what you've all been probably waiting for – what did I think of Zac in the movie. Zac's Richard, it's exactly what we've been waiting with baited breath for. I honestly think this is what the rest of the world needs to see him in to show his true talent. To be able to see what Zac was able to do with a real script and acting with some experienced actors, it was indescribable to see him really flourish on the screen. He had some great chemistry with Claire, his character's emotions ran the full spectrum and he handled them, nailed them with such ease. He was just a real joy to watch on screen (even the old ladies who didn’t know who he was in the movie thought he was ‘lovely’, ‘charming’, ‘such a talented young man’ and my favorite ‘yummy’). Though it was when Zac & Christian had *the* pivotal scenes together, I kind of got slack jawed. To me, it was like that's the point where I could say with conviction and no doubt in my mind; he's arriving as a real actor.

More importantly, I loved this movie for the movie itself. I told a friend of mine afterwards (she enjoys Zac, not as much as we all do) – that if Zac weren’t in this movie, I’d still love the movie just as much. It’s a well-written script and Linklater does a great job with it. Having Zac in it just enhances it that much more. Also – an important note, I went into this movie not having read the book so I’m just basing this off of what I saw in the movie.

C had asked me to talk a little bit about how the tweens/teens will appreciate this movie. I think some of the more ‘mature’ of that group, the ones that just aren’t omgomg!squee over the prettiness that is Zac, may like the movie – it’s not super deep to the point where they’ll space out, but they will need to pay close attention to the movie as a whole, not just Zac. There are some points of it that will blatantly go well over their heads (Orson’s modernist depiction of Caesar in comparison with the fascism going on at that time) along with some of the more ‘mature’ concepts along with some of the language & gestures that they have Zac/Richard partaking in. There’s no ‘official’ rating for the movie from MPAA as of yet, but after watching, I’m guessing it will be a PG-13 just because of some of the language & concepts in the movie. This movie was most definitely made with them in mind. I think some will enjoy it, while others will complain that this isn’t ‘Zac as they know him’ from previous roles. The company handling distribution and marketing may try to take aim at this group, but I hope they don’t concentrate all their efforts at that (I’ll refrain from getting on my ‘professional’ PR/marketing soapbox here) – and keep a more well balanced approach to things.

Hope this is what you guys were looking for! I cannot wait to see it again in Novmeber :)

Mood: sleepysleepy
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hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on October 5th, 2009 06:00 am (UTC)
Well we've got this:

Which is apparently being used (per amazon.de) on the book release tied-in to the movie.

But Kerry heard that isn't for US promo... and the US stuff we don't have yet.

BUT HOPEFULLY SOON!!!!! I am dying for it and for HQ stills.
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butterflybee260: pic#92303613butterflybee260 on October 5th, 2009 06:50 am (UTC)

I'm so happy you had a good time Kerry! :D And this is making me so freaking excited for the movie.

Spoiler question:

I thought we had heard that the movie is PG? I'm curious about the 'mature' themes you mentioned because when I read the book it was rather risque, talking about nipples and pubic hair etc and I'm curious as to how much of that they left in the movie.
IceGoddess: dirty little secret - this is *the* oneccmskatechick on October 5th, 2009 02:15 pm (UTC)
It really was a blast. I'm hoping that the festival gets some more good options for next year because I'd like to go back up and experience it a little more (the panels, other movies)

In regards to your question...

Really they're talking PG? I didn't hear that. I guess I could see that if they're going to be leaninent with things, MPAA is fickle and sometimes make NO sense with their ratings. The movie is still has no official rating from them and is still being 'considered' for ratings from them.

There's not as much discussion of specific body parts ala what you said that I can remember, but there's a good deal of cursing. Zac does flip someone off on stage as well (I WILL NEED A SCREENCAP OF THIS!) I haven't read the book so I can't say if it's as risque, but there are definite sexual themes in this movie.

I mean I was also looking at it from the standpoint as Cady asked me for the tween/teen set, and I think that that, plus the younger fans, this is a 'mature' movie for them. They're used to seeing Zac as Troy, or even as Mark/Mike - this is a *definite* departure from that.

Does that help?
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elena_claytonelena_clayton on October 5th, 2009 07:35 am (UTC)
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING! I got so teary excited reading that! Makes happy :)

(And goddamn Australia for not having any hope in hell of getting this film in our cinemas! FUCK!)
Daniheartunprepared on October 5th, 2009 12:30 pm (UTC)
Word on the goddamn Australia. :( We need to find a fangirl with a MASSIVE TV and all fly to watch it at her place LOL.
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jessica3311jessica3311 on October 5th, 2009 12:09 pm (UTC)
Kerry awesome review girlie :D
IceGoddess: dirty little secret - this is *the* oneccmskatechick on October 5th, 2009 02:16 pm (UTC)
You have no more questions?? lol ;)
(no subject) - jessica3311 on October 5th, 2009 02:47 pm (UTC) (Expand)
bettybaby63bettybaby63 on October 5th, 2009 12:31 pm (UTC)

thanks so much for your review, i really enjoyed it and i'm glad you had such a great time.

i'm happy to hear that you were the youngest there---although i'm not sure what exactly that means LOL--as that certainly wasn't the case at TIFF where the presence of the teen contingent may have contributed to some of the "Zac negativity" exhibited by some of the critics.

i'm also glad to hear that they are working on a new poster, although i suspect it may be very similar to what we have already seen. i think the temptation to use zac's status will be too much for the marketing people to resist, as they are often guilty of taking the easy way out, or put another, catering to the fastest way to bring in the most money. obviously that's the whole point, but they shouldn't take away from a film's integrity in order to accomplish that goal.

i was also interested in your remark about the film garnering a PG-13 rating, given that i can't recall any other fan deeming certain aspects of the story as "mature."

k, now for my spoilers LOL

so speaking of mature themes, how do they portray the fact that Sonja and richard sleep together? in the book, they are in Orson's apartment and we get an infamous quadrupedal space (love those LOL), and then the scene shifts to the next morning, and richard is wearing Orson's bathrobe. i've heard the bathrobe aspect was deleted, which really annoys me. this is such a disappointment, not only for the obvious hotness that is Zac in a bathrobe, but i think it quite effectively illustrates the maturation process of Richard as its pretty ballsy to don your bosses bathrobe after sleeping with his lover, which also emphasizes the changing regard that richard holds toward Orson. i really love how one little detail like that can give a scene such meaning!

and lastly, i've heard the ending was changed up a bit as well, but i'm not sure if i want to know the details of that, i'll have to ponder on that one LOL

well that's it i think, thanks again and i'm glad you had such a great experience.
IceGoddess: dirty little secret - this is *the* oneccmskatechick on October 5th, 2009 02:35 pm (UTC)
I'm on the 'higher' end of the 20's spectrum and the majority of these movie goers were easily 40+ to 70+ with a handful of some people in their mid to late 30's. Most definitely not what you said was up in Toronto, I'd say the absolute opposite of that. These people were here to see the movie for the movie, not for Zef. And from what I heard after the movie from the chattering was that they loved the movie - and a lot of them were surprised by Zac in this. The one older woman behind me was easily in her 60's and didn't have a CLUE who he was, I heard her say to her companion that she thought he was very good in this role and has great potential - and he's yummy.

As for your questions...

First off - you really don't get the sense straight off that Sofia and Orson were getting it on before. It was definitely portrayed that Sofia will take care of herself no matter what she needs to do, but it kind of doesn't touch on the Orson thing straight off.

We get to see Richard & Sofia in Orson's apartment afther their 'date' - Sofia breaks out the wine and while Richard settles in on the couch (complaining of the cold) with his wine, Sofia goes into the bedroom to get into a nightgown. They're talking during this, with Richard downing wine pretty quickly realizing where this is really going. She at one point tosses out pajamas to him where he downs more wine. After she's changed Sofia comes back out, sits down on the couch next to Richard and kisses him. You see them break out of the kiss and then the next thing is Richard the next morning happily meandering down the street towards the Mercury.

Man oh man I have to read this book now lol - see I'm kind of glad now I didn't go in having read the book, cause knowing that I'd be disappoined we didn't get a more meaningful morning after scene. And yeah can't tell you about the ending in comparison to the book just yet. I'm planning on hitting up the library/Barnes & Noble or Borders to pick that up shortly.

Like I said to Mel above -- I mean I was also looking at it from the standpoint as Cady asked me for the tween/teen set, and I think that that, plus the younger fans, this is a 'mature' movie for them. They're used to seeing Zac as Troy, or even as Mark/Mike - this is a *definite* departure from that.

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IceGoddess: heylo there dirty lil secretccmskatechick on October 5th, 2009 02:51 pm (UTC)
C - before I forget! Your last two questions/comments you sent me regarding the movie...

He does NOT have a New Jersey accent. When you sent me that, the jersey girl in me kind of did inner cartwheels. Alas that didn't happen. Not at all. They really don't allude to him being FROM New Jersey in this other than in the initial scenes showing Richard ONCE on the train. Other than that, you wouldn't have any idea.

And the music was completely in era. You had some big band and big orchestral pieces. Kind of reminded me of the music from Swing Kids.

Troll St. Trollglamour_addict on October 5th, 2009 03:19 pm (UTC)
Did the soundtrack include recognizable songs? (music with lyrics) or is it all instrumental?

You mentioned Richard's merry postcoital walk down the street, is that the moment we see in the trailer? where he throws the peanut in the air etc..?
(no subject) - ccmskatechick on October 5th, 2009 03:52 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - ehs_wildcats on October 5th, 2009 10:22 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Troll St. Trollglamour_addict on October 5th, 2009 03:21 pm (UTC)
Thanks Kerry!

Was "Quadruple Space" mentioned in the movie?
-Jo-: thanksgreenie_breizh on October 5th, 2009 03:22 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for this awesome review! I'm really psyched for this :D
jessica3311: eye lashesjessica3311 on October 5th, 2009 04:25 pm (UTC)
butterflybee260: pic#91844089butterflybee260 on October 5th, 2009 04:32 pm (UTC)

Aw he's such a doll. <3
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It's Audrey not Aubreyaudrey_za on October 5th, 2009 05:30 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much, Kerry for the review.

I love what you said about the end credits. It's funny how we follow a project he's involved with from the 'in talks' stages (when we know) to end, and it's this entire culmination of emotion when you finally get to see the final product. I know with "17 Again" I was like ;_; when that photo of Zac at 17 popped up- it's rewarding. To know where he began and see all that he's achieving, you can't help but feel proud. Credits always get me 'aw'ing', haha.

I'm glad to hear you had a good time, and that one of us here finally got a chance to see an early screening!

Quick (non-spoiler) question. Did you ask Richard anything during the Q&A?
IceGoddess: why so serious dirty little secretccmskatechick on October 5th, 2009 05:48 pm (UTC)
I had a few questions in mind and C sent me a few to try to ask as well - unfortunately, I didn't get 'called on' and I also wasn't like some of these older people I was with just screaming out questions near the end lol.

I was going to wait around after to thank him for such a great movie, but he got swarmed then went out through the 'private keep out' entrance so no go there.
IceGoddess: dirty little secret - this is *the* oneccmskatechick on October 5th, 2009 05:51 pm (UTC)
zaccy23zaccy23 on October 5th, 2009 06:21 pm (UTC)
Lol they used your tweet and responded to you??
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The Writers Denmusewriter on October 5th, 2009 06:33 pm (UTC)

Thanks for the review! I'm so glad to hear you say that you liked the movie despite not having read the book. I haven't read it and won't have time to do so before the movie comes out and I was afraid I'd be lost and confused during the movie.
bettybaby63bettybaby63 on October 5th, 2009 07:06 pm (UTC)
LOL that they used your twitter comment!
Bee: Zac - GQ - In Car 1 (full)jeezbee on October 7th, 2009 01:22 am (UTC)
Thanks for the review and the pictures, Kerry! I'm glad you had a great time. Going by your comments and other articles, this festival sounds really intimate.