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Jul 23rd
04:11 pm
Some more from yesterday  
More pics from yesterday with Amanda, Burr, a fluffy dog, and a Willy Wonka-esque bad ass boat.

^i presume they are supposed to be on the boat, but it is kind of hard to tell.


is it too much to ask for some zac sailing pictures? please :) :) :)
Mood: busybusy
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hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on July 24th, 2009 12:14 am (UTC)
it's just dumb. for zac and vanessa, unless it has a verified thing, it isn't real. when will people get it?
butterflybee260butterflybee260 on July 24th, 2009 12:16 am (UTC)

I know bb, but its prolly just really bored tweens who want to desperately believe they're communicating with them. :/
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on July 24th, 2009 12:20 am (UTC)
the scary thing is, i think some of them are like legit adults. :/ ugh.

and i think the 'rents found about dylan's twitter, it's now private. as is stella's. i think those are legit because they've twitpic'ed stuff... and they are private. so idk. anyway.

i really just wish zac would get verified twitter and then never update it. that way at least there is an official twitter account. but he shouldn't have to do it, twitter should take care of all the fakers. do they not care about getting sued when some young teen gets molested by a predator who found her via a poser's twitter? they do nothing to prevent this. there is just so much wrong with their inaction.

butterflybee260butterflybee260 on July 24th, 2009 12:28 am (UTC)

Okay its downright terrifying when full grown adults are doing that.

Dylan's is private now? Sad, he was hilarious. And he looks so much like Zac now! I think he'll grow up to be very cute. I never figured out which one of the Stella ones was real, didn't really care, but I was shocked at the amount posers. Like really, that's pathetic.

I don't think Twitter will try to rat out all the poser accounts, there are just too many of them. I think the best way is word of mouth. Kathryn on zefron.com just did another notice saying Zac doesn't have any online accounts anywhere.

If he did do anything online, I'd love for him to do a blog, because the Cosmogirl ones were hella funny. But I don't think he ever will sadly.
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on July 24th, 2009 12:40 am (UTC)
i know, i love his cosmogirl blogs. they are quite funny.

well what fb does about famous names is not allow people to sign up with them AT ALL. the celebrity/their rep has to contact facebook with proof of identity to create a facebook account under a famous name. any names slip through will be frozen and warned then deleted if insufficient proof of identity is provided. this is what twitter should do.

twitter has, if not a legal, a moral responsibility to protect their uses, especially in a medium driven by youth involvement. and their current verified account service is far too passive.
butterflybee260butterflybee260 on July 24th, 2009 01:06 am (UTC)

Oh interesting, I didn't know Facebook did that.

I think that as Twitter grows, its still a very young site/company, it will develop better policies when it comes to celebs and such. I like the Facebook policies and hopefully Twitter will install something like that sooner rather than later.
samwise gamgee.colfer on July 24th, 2009 10:12 am (UTC)
ha, i was wondering if that was really dylan.
ohinternets on July 24th, 2009 03:24 pm (UTC)
wow, html fail, sorry.
i really just wish zac would get verified twitter and then never update it. that way at least there is an official twitter account.

I agree with you. That's what I suggested to LG's people as well, with the last fiasco of an actual adult male getting girls to call him while impersonating him. I'M SURE someone is doing that with Zac. Lucas used to have an official MySpace that he never updated but he eventually deleted it; I guess he didn't even want the hassle of having that. Maybe that's how Zac feels - he doesn't even want the hassle of having one at all. Maybe they're afraid they'll turn into Miley Cyrus and suddenly find themselves tweeting 300 times a day. :)

Twitter, MySpace AND Facebook will all give them their usernames, MySpace even uses the term "cybersquatting" for it, but they will ONLY do it if the person themselves complains and verifies it's them with a picture holding up an identity sign (i.e., one that says "Hi, Twitter, this is the real Zac Efron!"), and I guess neither Zef nor LG are that interested in doing so.

but he shouldn't have to do it, twitter should take care of all the fakers.

They would have to hire a separate department just to track down the fakers of the Twilight cast alone... but I agree that celebrities should just get real ones and not update it. They may just not be aware it's so rampant, or so potentially dangerous. idk.
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on July 24th, 2009 09:45 pm (UTC)
Re: wow, html fail, sorry.
Facebook does actually have a proactive system now. They have a list of celebrity/famous/weird names that are blocked from being registered. I don't know how extensive it is but I checked and Zac is definitely on it, but Lucas is not.

If you have a name on that list and you are a legit person, whether you are the famous person or not, you have to prove your identity to Facebook in order to register that name.

This is what Twitter and Myspace need to do. Or at least respond to our complaints about posers. That would at least be better than letting them run rampant.

I'm also going to start using your Lucas poser story when people complain at me for defending against posers. They don't understand why I care and I've always said to protect Zac and to protect kids from perverts, but it is good to have a real story about a specific incident. Do you have more details? Like the twitter's fake name, etc.

And, LOL, I can't imagine either Lucas or Zac pulling a Miley and tweeting endlessly lol.

ohinternets on July 24th, 2009 09:59 pm (UTC)
No, some 16yo girl owns the username lucasgrabeel on Facebook. They are aware of it (Lucas' people), but he just doesn't seem to care.

The fake twitter that was doing this was @lucasgrabeel3. It's owned by @israelhernandez, a person Lucas doesn't know. He is a 20something young man in California who has a very active fantasy life and pretends to be friends with Demi Lovato, Lady Gaga, Lucas and a few other people, makes fake twitter/saynow.com/MySpace accounts for them, makes them as "official" as possible, and links them all to each other. So it all seems very official.

The straw on the camel for me was when on his Lady Gaga "street team" MySpace page he started talking about a "charity" that "gives needy youth" access to concert tickets (ie himself) and was asking people to donate money and/or VIP packages and stuff like that. Then he had "lucas" telling his thousands of followers to "donate." That's fraud, and on the Internet, that is a federal crime punishable by several years in prison.

Marc and Lucas were in no way aware that he was doing this, of course. In fact, Marc was shocked and quite horrified when he was notified about it, so I do think celebrities don't necessarily understand the scope of the danger going on. Within an hour they'd contacted Twitter, etc. to take everything down.

Within a few more hours, Israel had deleted all of the Lucas account's fake tweets and followers, taken down the "charity" page, and had turned the Myspace into this: http://www.myspace.com/lucasgrabeel Initially he had fake-Lucas tweet that he'd been hacked, but you can see what's left of that. I guess they contacted him and spelled out exactly what could happen to him if he went on doing that.

So we have an example of someone who not just tried to victimize young girls with an HSM actor's persona, but tried to steal from them, too.

BTW, both Corbin and Drew Seeley have SayNow.com accounts and SayNow.com actually WILL take impersonators down if you or someone other than the celebrity contacts them about it. Israel used to have one for Lucas, but I contacted them and it was immediately suspended. Unfortunately, he started another one (saynow.com/lucasgrabeelstreetteam) but since that's not "official" or impersonating him, it's allowed to remain. :/
ohinternets on July 24th, 2009 10:00 pm (UTC)
oops... fake twitter was @lucasgrabeel13, not just 3.