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Jun 20th
12:17 am
Who should be Tess?  
Jeezbee and I, along with a few others, have had an ongoing discussion about who might make a good Tess in The Death and Life of Charlie St. Cloud. To put it all in one place, I've made this post with pics and everything. HOORAY!

You can see the basic organization from the cuts. We've included info on whether they are available, other projects they've worked on, and possible negatives to their involvement. Our longer commentary is at the end.

Also, just because book!Tess is described as "tall and lean with dark straight hair" and her eyes "light as lime on the outer edges, rich as emerald toward the center," doesn't mean movie!Tess has to look exactly like that.

This movie is not Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter or even the Babysitter's Club. These characters are not iconic. There is no directive from God telling us we must heed the source material OR ELSE! To me, with this type of story, surface details are flexible except what is dictated by the plot and character. So what that means is Tess needs to be appropriately fit, beautiful and not too far in age from Charlie. Those are the characteristics we most need to find... hair color, less important.

So anyway, enough talking... picture time!

Biggest names:
Scarlett Johansson Michelle Williams
Iron Man 2 (filming, start date April 2009) Shutter Island, Brokeback Mountain
Possibly would play too old next to Zac. Possibly plays too old.

Schedule Unclear:
Emily Blunt Gemma Arterton
Gulliver’s Travels (filming, start date March 2009)
Jane Austen Book Club, Devil Wears Prada
Wuthering Heights (unclear start date)
Prince of Persia, Clash of the Titans, Quantum of Solace
Possibly would play too old next to Zac. Possibly too tall.

Mila Kunis Romola Garai
Date Night (filming, start date April 2009)
Forgetting Sarah Marshall, Max Payne, That 70s Show
Emma (BBC miniseries, filming as of April 2009)
Atonement, Scoop, Vanity Fair
Possibly plays too old, still too Vanessa (imo) Possibly too tall.

Somewhat established but not huge:
Anna Kendrick Allison Miller
Twilight, Scott Pilgrim, Camp 17 Again, Blood: The Last Vampire, Kings (TV)
Only Twilight exception due to her background. Her role in 17 Again was fairly small,
so I wouldn't mind her costarring again.

Teresa Palmer Olivia Thirlby
Sorcerer’s Apprentice (filming, start date March 2009)
Bedtime Stores, December Boys
Juno, The Wackness, What Goes Up

Olivia Wilde Mary Elizabeth Winstead
Tron 2.0 (filming, start date April 2009)
Year One, House MD (TV), Black Donnellys (TV)
Scott Pilgrim, Live Free Die Hard, Grindhouse
Possibly plays too old. Possibly too tall.

Schedule Unclear:
Alicja Bachleda-Curus Laura Ramsey
Ondine (with Colin Farrell), Friendship The Irishman (filming, start date April 2009)
Shrink, The Covenant, She’s the Man, The Ruins
The Absinthe Drinkers (start date Sept 2009, not firm). In development project in limbo, also possibly too old.

Lesser known but possibly interesting:
Jessica Chastain Amanda Fairbank-Hynes
The Tree of Life, The Debt, more TV An Education, The Boat That Rocked

Lyndsy Fonseca Kate French
Hot Tub Time Machine (filming, start date April 2009)
Kick-Ass, quite a bit of TV
The L Word, other TV, a few small film roles

Masiela Lusha Kimberly Nixon
Blood: The Last Vampire, George Lopez (TV) Black Death (filming, start date April 2009)
Cherrybomb, Easy Virtue, Wild Child

Emily VanCamp Annabelle Walis
The Ring Two, Brothers and Sisters, Everwood The Tudors (Jane Seymour), Body of Lies
Possibly too tall. Possibly too tall.

Even more with few credits but possibly interesting:
Chelsea Brummet Alexandra Chando
Lure, youth TV early on (All That mostly) Mostly TV

Briana Evigan Alice Greczyn
Sorority Row, Step Up 2, S. Darko Sex Drive, some TV

Meredith Hagner Lucy Hale
As the World Turns Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants 2, Privileged (TV)

Not available:
Anne Hathaway Keira Knightley
Valentine's Day London Boulevard/The Beautiful and the Damned

Natalie Portman Carey Mulligan
Your Highness Brighton Rock

Kristen Bell Amanda Seyfried
You Again Letters to Juliet/Big Love

Amber Heard Ellen Page
The Ward Inception

For Shrewtee:
Jessica Stroup
90210, The Informers, Homecoming, Prom Night

NO List:

Mischa Barton
Camilla Belle
Rachel Bilson (just no)
Alexis Bledel (too old at this point)
Sophia Bush
Katie Cassidy
Elisha Cuthbert
Kat Dennings (not the right look)
Hilary Duff
Kirsten Dunst
Megan Fox
Summer Glau
Maggie Grace
Arielle Kebbel
Kristin Kreuk
Vanessa Lengies
Blake Lively
Mandy Moore
Danielle Panabaker (too young, busy)
Hayden Panettiere
Anna Paquin
Sara Paxton
Emmy Rossum (ugh no no no)
Amber Tamblyn
Evan Rachel Wood
Odette Yustman (too tall, plus is shooting "You Again")

Anyone notable from "Gossip Girl", "Twilight" (except Anna Kendrick), "Harry Potter", Disney or any CW show

No former co-stars

Jeezbee's commentary
"CStC" is a new genre for Zac - it's his first straight out drama/romance in his adult career. Plus, this is his first movie which is not targeted at his t(w)een demographic but more young adults/women (yes, teen girls will clearly watch it and help driving the box office but it's not soley targeted at them) and with that he and his co-stars will have to appeal to this audience. His character was 28-years-old in the book and will likely be mid twenties in the movie. The most important casting in my opinion is Tess - the female lead and the love interest for Zac's character.

If we like it or not and weather it's true or not, Zac is still fighting for credibility in regards to his acting. He started getting some credits with "17 Again" but he's still far from accepted, so it's essential that his leading lady brings this credibility to the project - for the critics and also for the adult audience. Her skills are important but just as important is the public perception about her acting skills. And as hypocritical as it might be, that means no former or current Disney (Channel) stars or any actresses with a low acting profile. He can't distance himself from his Disney image if his co-star bring that into the project.

Another note on starpower, there is still a significant difference between movie actors and TV actors. I'm not saying that TV actors are worse actors (skillwise) but they are valued differently by the movie audience. If they can see the actor every week on TV for free, they are way less willing to spend money on a movie starring this actor. Of course there are TV actors who also do successful movies but in the eyes of the general public there is still a significant difference. In regards to "CStC" this means a movie actress would be way better than a TV actress. It's ok if she has done TV in the past or is doing it now and in between but she needs to be predominantely a movie star (meaning that today she's known for her movies and not for her TV roles and she has good feature film credits).

Tess was described as being a few years younger in the book but given her background she should probably be around 23/24 - otherwise it's a bit hard to believe that she runs that sail making business and is experienced enough to go on that world sailing trip. The actress shouldn't be too young for that - they are already "faking" Zac's age and I think it's beneficial if the actress has a certain maturity (obviously not too old but I think having someone 18-21ish would be mostly too young) - an actress between 22-26 would be perfect in my personal opinion but of course dependent on the individual case she might be younger or older.

Out of the current options, my preferences would be Michelle Williams, Emily Blunt, Gemma Arterton or Anna Kendrick.

All four actresses are movie actresses with significant drama experience and talent imo. Gemma and Anna are still fairly new in that business but both have recently scored very high-profile movies and are certainly amongst the up-and-coming actresses while Michelle's and Emily's track record are unquestioned. All of them are taken serious as actress and would lend the movie the credibility it needs. I also can see them working well with Zac (I do have a few concerns with Emily appearing a bit too mature but due to talent I'm willing to overlook it).

My commentary

Obviously in many ways The Death and Life of Charlie St. Cloud is another vehicle for Zac. And like 17 Again, it is pushing him into a new genre with a slightly different audience to conquer. Also as in 17 Again, Zac needs costars/crew that not only help him grow but also help the project gain legitimacy in the eyes of doubters.

Consequently, that is why we ruled out most actresses tied to Disney/Harry Potter/CW, etc. Most of those people have credibility issues to deal with on their own. That doesn't mean they aren't good, but it just wouldn't be best if the project has to fight naysayers on both main leads.

An established big name would be an awesome addition to the cast and bring some positive attention, but at this point is highly unlikely. Most big name actresses are already scheduled. Many also may play too old against Zac and some probably think themselves above him and this film. There is also a worry that they might overpower Zac. It is one thing for Christian McKay as Orson Welles to overpower Zac and his character in MAOW, it is rather fitting there... but that is not called for here.

At any rate, if they cannot get a big name, they need someone who is extremely talented, beautiful, and relatively unknown. An unknown wouldn't bring negative attention just curiosity. I'm okay with TV credits tbh... I mean, even some soap stars turn out to be big. As long as tv is a starting off place and not an ending place. As Zac has shown, you can do good work in a lesser project... that's the kind of actor they probably need to find.

To be honest, some of the women jeezbee or I added could be really shitty actresses. But we liked the look of them and the potential might be worth an audition, at least, in our fictitious casting office.

I don't even think I could pick a few favorites... I tried to because I made jeezbee do it, but for me it would be so hard to choose without seeing their ability and their chemistry with Zac.

Of all the big names, I'd most like to see him work with Anne Hathaway at some point in the future, even if it isn't this project. But any of them bring a lot to the table.

And everyone else, well based on looks, they are all beautiful and seem pretty fit. So it comes down to talent and feeling and if there isn't enough of that then pass. But if I had to say, I guess I like the look of Anna Kendrick, Allison Miller, Teresa Palmer, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, and Kate French the best.

Now discuss amongst yourselves, I'm going to sleep!

eta: this is the comment thread where our original discussion of tess actresses happened, just for reference.
Mood: sleepysleepy
33 33 comments Comment
The Writers Denmusewriter on June 20th, 2009 08:28 am (UTC)
Wow! You guys really thought this out. What great commentary and a great choice of actresses. I really like the idea of Allison Miller as Tess or Kate French. This is of course based on looks and the slight exposure I've had to Allson's acting in 17 Again, but both she and Kate fit the character of Tess like I've been envisioning it.
butterflybee260butterflybee260 on June 20th, 2009 08:31 am (UTC)

I could totally see Allison Miller. They already know her, she has great chemistry with Zac, she looks mature but not older than him...I really really want that now. Its perfect. And it could explain why we haven't heard casting news/auditions.

Anna Kendrick was fucking hilarious in Twilight, she was the best in the movie IMO. But idk about her serious acting chops.

There were others I liked but I REALLY REALLY love the Allison Miller idea.
rachel berry ★audrey on June 20th, 2009 08:53 am (UTC)
I love this all so much! I definitely second Mary Elizabeth Winstead but Amber Heard is becoming one of my favorite young actresses. Either way, this got me super pumped for filming.
jessica3311jessica3311 on June 20th, 2009 08:55 am (UTC)
Bee u make a lot of sense with aging Tess a little older....w/ regards to her owning her own business at the age she was....

So looking over these actresses....the 1 one person I didnt c listed was Rachel McAdams....love her but I think shes too old maybe? Idk if she has a project at the moment. I also love Amanda Seyfield shes prob my #1 choice, too bad shes not available.

Look wise & previous chemistry w/ Zac I like Olesya Rulin But with the HSM connection....prob isnt the best idea & not sure if she has the acting chops....but look wise, age & chemistry i saw w/ Zac with the limitations with HSM I always picture when reading the book.

I also like Leighton Meester from GG, Sophia Bush ia great too but your reasoning w/ TV/CW with credibility & such makes sense!

So with that....what a great list you guys came up with. Its funny I was feeling more of the lesser known actresses versus the more well known ones minus Amanda Seyfield ofc :D Also look wise Gemma & Romala could work

I def. like the idea of Allison Miller She had good chemistry w/ Zac & she looks good w/ dark hair LOL.....im a big fan of the tudors & so is my mom...i havent watched this season but my mom loved Jane Seymour...who is Annabelle Walis....Im also pretty familiar w/ Alice Greczyn she is on Lincoln Heights on ABC Family. She has spunk to her....so if they can make her a little more tom boyish I can see her as a possibility.

Bee: Zac - GQ - On Top Parking Meter 1jeezbee on June 20th, 2009 04:13 pm (UTC)
I don't know ehs' take on Rachel McAdams but I've replied to the other Bee on FF in regards to that.
(no subject) - ehs_wildcats on June 20th, 2009 04:26 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Bee: Zac - GQ - In Car 1 (full)jeezbee on June 20th, 2009 09:45 am (UTC)
Wow, I didn't expect the pictures. :)

I like how you restructured the actesses of interest. While I certainly have my preferences, right now I would be just happy if it's nobody from the do-not-want list.
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on June 20th, 2009 05:18 pm (UTC)
Did we ever consider Ari Graynor or Alexis Dziena or Emma Stone? Emma might be too young.
(no subject) - jeezbee on June 20th, 2009 05:30 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - ehs_wildcats on June 20th, 2009 05:38 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - jeezbee on June 20th, 2009 05:45 pm (UTC) (Expand)
samwise gamgee.colfer on June 20th, 2009 10:21 am (UTC)
....good gracious. i don't care who plays her as long as she doesn't chew the scenery and has chemistry with zef.

Shruti: This Boycalcified on June 20th, 2009 05:05 pm (UTC)

germangirl89germangirl89 on June 20th, 2009 10:46 am (UTC)
Wow just wow...

oot: so I heard from someone that she read in some forum that there was a zac sighning in toronto... could that be true? I try to get a link...
🦉: (bbv) ಌ bamfwillbeloved on June 20th, 2009 12:45 pm (UTC)
I don't know if they've showed up on any Zac sites yet, but he's definitely in Montreal just so you know!
germangirl89germangirl89 on June 20th, 2009 01:24 pm (UTC)
ah thank you... but I can't open it :(
zac at virgin festival & casting - bettybaby63 on June 20th, 2009 04:01 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: zac at virgin festival & casting - germangirl89 on June 20th, 2009 04:12 pm (UTC) (Expand)
It's Audrey not Aubreyaudrey_za on June 20th, 2009 04:06 pm (UTC)
I laughed out loud at the capslock NO and "just no" for Rachel Bilson. The "ugh no no no" garnered a SERIOUS, enthusiastic head nod from me. My first and only time walking out of a theater before a movie ended was at "Phantom of the Opera". Besides, she's apparantly doing a sequel to Drangonball. 'Nuff said.
Bee: Zac - ELLE - Lying on Car 1jeezbee on June 20th, 2009 04:12 pm (UTC)
I'm not speaking for ehs, and I fully admit to being biased and hypocritical but I would say it's probably a good thing that the NO list doesn't include a lot of commentary.
(no subject) - bettybaby63 on June 20th, 2009 04:19 pm (UTC) (Expand)
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(no subject) - calcified on June 20th, 2009 04:47 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Ashley in the Sky with Diamonds: bscchicken_queen on June 20th, 2009 04:16 pm (UTC)
I don't know the stort, so I can't give input .. I just wanted to cheer for the Baby-sitters Club mention!!!! :) :) :)
It's Audrey not Aubreyaudrey_za on June 20th, 2009 04:24 pm (UTC)
Right there with you. I was like BSB shout-out, what what!
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sasha.: Ztimid » it takes a worried mansashanaa on June 20th, 2009 10:04 pm (UTC)
I really like the idea of Allison Miller and Emily Blunt. Emily's look really fits the description of Tess and her acting credibility is pretty solid. She's pretty diverse Too bad she's probably too old. But Allison Miller would probably be my first choice. They've got chemistry and they already know her, but she didn't have a huge, huge part in it, so it's good. More looks wise, I agree about Kate French and Teresa Palmer.

I'm just really anxious to hear who's in it! Then also with Tink and Joe. Every time I think of Tink, I see the guy from Lost...lol. I don't watch the show, but he just seems perfect to me, idk.

Oh and like you, I'd love to see Zac work with Anne Hathaway. I could see them having chemistry and I just really like Anne lol.
Bee: Zac - GQ - Lying on Car 1jeezbee on June 25th, 2009 03:49 pm (UTC)

Here are also a few casting ideas for Joe and Tink.

With both characters it's clear that they will not look like the description in the book because unless you go for absolute no-names, I don't think there are actors who fit the descriptions... hence, my ideas are ALL OVER THE PLACE. Plus, I haven't spend that much time on looking for them; I've just gone though the IMDb search and here are a few which could be interesting imo. Having said that, many of them are too big to take those roles but I've added them anyway.

Joe Carabino

Somewhat interested:

Ben Foster
Dominic Purcell (not sure about enough film credits)
Ryan Philippe (he has two rumored projects in pre-production but it doesn't look like anything is happening there for a while)
Hugh Dancy
Kevin Durand (that would be a really weird pairing with Zac)
Jason Statham (has "The Mechanic" lined up for a summer shoot but has no dates or other casting etc)
Michael Vartan (not sure if his show "Hawthorne" has finished filming its first season by then)
Ethan Hawke

More interested:

Jude Law (unfortunately not very likely for him to be interested in a role like this)
Patrick Wilson ("Morning Glory" should be finished by then)
Josh Duhamel
Colin Farrell ("London Boulevard" should be finished by then but I don't see him taking this role)
Jonathan Rhys Meyers (he should be filming "Mary Mother of Christ" but it looks like it might be delayed; not sure for how long)
Will Arnett ("Jonah Hex" should definitely be done by then)
Jeremy Renner
Amaury Nolasco

Tink Weatherbee

Somewhat interested:

Tyler Labine
Ed Helms
Aaron Douglas
Peter Sarsgaard
Chris Pratt

More interested:

Jason Segal ("Gulliver's Travels" should be finished by then)
John Krasinski (probably shooting next season of "The Office")
Danny McBride (is filming "Your Highness" at the time of "CStC")
Michael Shannon (is filming "The Runaways" right now but with luck a schedule could be worked out esp since Joe doesn't have that much screentime)
Luke Wilson ("Death at a Funeral" is definitely done by then)
Vince Vaughn

hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators)ehs_wildcats on July 19th, 2009 06:38 pm (UTC)
I'm gonna go ahead and add a few more pics to this list in this comment. Let's face it, though we were looking for Tess, this list is really a casting list of young Hollywood leading ladies and any of them might factor in his future movies. So it'll be nice to have this list for future reference anyway.

This one first, Rachel Hurd-Wood.

She is pretty low on the star meter so I hadn't even found her for Tess. She's also a little young, but looks older. She reminds me of Amy Adams.

These one's we've already discussed, but just to add pictures:

Ari Graynor

Alexis Dziena

Emma Stone
Miranda gives everyone a chancemirandagirll on August 8th, 2014 03:54 am (UTC)
woo lawd @ the no list

I'm cackling