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Jan 19th
05:31 pm
Zac apologizes  


I still really wonder who wrote it but hopefully Zac learns many lessons from this as he has from other things.

P.S. if Zac or anyone wants an amazing experience, the audiobook version of The Autobiography of MLK Jr is incredible to listen to. Moving, informative and at times infuriating (to see how little progress we've made), it features original audio recordings of speeches etc where possible.
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Aliciapop86 on January 19th, 2016 11:48 pm (UTC)
I think it would be safer if his team took control of his twitter again.
Miranda gives everyone a chance: zac9mirandagirll on January 19th, 2016 11:50 pm (UTC)
And after Stoller tweeted about going to MLKs house in Atlanta. I wonder if Zac went during filming

It's a great museum alongside his house
countessm3countessm3 on January 20th, 2016 12:06 am (UTC)
I usually rhetorically analyze his "I have a Dream" speech a day or two before MLK day, but school started late this semester, so I missed the opportunity.

You'd be surprised how many African-Americans don't understand or know how Martin Luther King made his argument, what rhetorical and literary devices he used and how these spoke to African-Americans and sympathetic whites at this historical time.

That is a great tragedy, IMHO. They've heard the speech but not really *listened* to it. I don't expect white people to have paid attention, but I expect African-Americans to have.

But that's a ubiquitous problem these days. People hear but don't listen. They remember but don't analyze

That speech was pure rhetorical and literary genius.
Beejeezbee on January 20th, 2016 12:22 am (UTC)
Good for him to apologize and I absolutely believe he means it.

But you have to wonder what took 19 hours to figure out that deleting the original posts was a good idea? Whoever he is paying for/advising on his social media should have pointed it out to him much earlier considering that articles have been popping up everywhere.
The Writers Denmusewriter on January 20th, 2016 05:01 am (UTC)
I really do wonder if Q is involved with his social media much anymore or if he has Sami help him with all of it. Because I would have thought Q would have noticed and deleted it or advised him to delete it and post an apology tweet much sooner. Or if I was his publicist, I would have been on the phone as soon as the first few articles popped up...

But, the important thing is, he apologized, and whether or not he actually wrote it...this time it genuinely sounds like something he would say and I do believe he means it.
countessm3countessm3 on January 20th, 2016 12:45 am (UTC)
The main problem, I think, is that Zac doesn't realize he's not an African-American man. He will never be an African-American male. He may think like AA men, he may do like AA men, he may dress like AA men, but he will never be one.

(If Drake made this post, no one would have noticed).

He lacks their cultural heritage, their sense of community, their past. He can never use the N word even in play. Colton H thought he was AA for awhile and got drilled a new asshole for it. White guys need to realize they are white and give up trying to be something they aren't. That doesn't mean they can't appreciate the community, what it offers and the experience, they just need to realize there's a hard line, and not step over it.
Aliciapop86 on January 20th, 2016 01:56 am (UTC)
If Drake made the post people would have noticed just like they noticed when lil-Wayne, P-Diddy, and 50-Cents co-opted a MLK quote to promote their music. Even though Zac listen to hiphop and have AA friends I'm quite sure he knows he’s white. BTW it’s okay for other ethnic group like Black Culture w/o wanting to AA. We have no problem with other people appreciating our culture.

"You'd be surprised how many African-Americans don't understand or know how Martin Luther King made his argument, what rhetorical and literary devices he used and how these spoke to African-Americans and sympathetic whites at this historical time."

BTW please tell me how many African-Americans don't understand the rhetorical and literary devices used in King's argument? I waiting to be surprised.

Edited at 2016-01-20 02:07 am (UTC)
countessm3countessm3 on January 20th, 2016 01:34 pm (UTC)
* lil-Wayne, P-Diddy, and 50-Cents co-opted a MLK quote to promote their music.*

Well that's good. It's nice to know others can't get away with it.

*Even though Zac listen to hiphop*

Zac LISTENS to hip hop

*I'm quite sure he knows he’s white.*

I wasn't speaking literally, I was speaking metaphorically (one of those literary devices).

*Its okay for other ethnic group like Black Culture w/o wanting to AA. *

It's okay for other ethnic GROUPS TO LIKE Black Culture w/o wanting TO BE AA, and did I not say that?

*BTW please tell me how many African-Americans don't understand the rhetorical and literary devices used in King's argument? I waiting to be surprised*

I AM WAITING to be surprised.

All of my students two semesters ago, and most of my students each year I teach. My guess is English is your second language, so I am wondering if you understand the devices in his speech as well, since metaphors in another language is the hardest part of learning that language.

To speak plainly to you, people outside a culture need to give that culture more respect than people inside that culture. Over-familiarity can cause problems. I've never written an AA character for that reason - how can I know what it's like to be AA? I can't.
hunny miss (aka lets fead him to the gators): light fantasticehs_wildcats on January 20th, 2016 02:33 pm (UTC)
I don't know if you realize it but your corrections feel a little bit like a weapon and not the help I am hoping you want it to be. Plus attacking someone's English does not add to the discourse here, especially in this case. Please relax on that.

I have more to say in response to the actual arguments presented here but I have to wait until I am at my computer.
countessm3countessm3 on January 20th, 2016 03:23 pm (UTC)
*I don't know if you realize it but your corrections feel a little bit like a weapon and not the help I am hoping you want it to be*

I capitalized the corrections (don't know how to indent/bold) so I guess it came across as yelling. I do apologize for that. I wish we could have discourse w/o Ad Hominem arguments, but for some reason that always happens (the last question with "I waiting to be surprised" was not asked in earnest, but was a rhetorical question meant to intimidate me into silence. I should've just stayed quiet.)
Aliciapop86 on January 20th, 2016 04:26 pm (UTC)
I have desire to be bring drama to the board therefore I will move on from this incident.
kleth on January 21st, 2016 09:09 pm (UTC)
Frankly, I'm amazed by all this fluster over Zac's post.

Many social media posts are half-assed or goofy, it's the nature of the medium. Someone remarked that "it's not all about you, Zac." But on Zac's social media, it IS all about Zac. His mistake was to combine two subjects in one post. He wanted to brag/express appreciation for his 10 million followers, and since it was MLK Day he took the opportunity to stick that in too. If he had simply produced two posts, on praising Dr. King and one thanking has followers, there wouldn't have been a ripple. Most people don't write their posts as if they were writing advertising copy, in which every letter and punctuation mark is critical. That's the beginning of many hullabaloos.